Copyright Question

[gumpus]

I recently came across several historical artifacts. I believe the Loonworks video may be the same one offered for sale on www.freestylecanoeing.com. I'm pretty sure the Bill Mason videos are out there somewhere but I don't know where.

My question is around the Patrick Moore video. I'd like to have the video put on YouTube to share but I don't understand if there are legal implications. Patrick is gone and I'm not aware of anyone that could grant permission to share the video.

 

[Glenn MacGrady]

Is there a copyright symbol or word with a name and date anywhere on the box, the physical tape, or in the content of the tape (usually in the opening or closing credits)? Something like "© 1999 Patrick Moore" or "Copyright 1999 Patrick Moore".

 

[Mason]

Is there a copyright symbol or word with a name and date anywhere on the box, the physical tape, or in the content of the tape (usually in the opening or closing credits)? Something like "© 1999 Patrick Moore" or "Copyright 1999 Patrick Moore".

Regardless, the copyright is held by the creator of the art. Unless of course it's already on the web in some site that by using you're relinquishing your reproduction rights (probably most websites, esp. Facebook, whereby joining you basically have no copyright rights). Copying the work of a prior (pre-web) professional production, unless it's specifically in public domain, would go against copyright law and ethics. I know it's done all the time, but.......

 

[Sedges]

Bill Mason films are on the Canadian Film Board site to stream for free. The entire Path of the Paddle series is there and much more.

 

[Glenn MacGrady]

Regardless, the copyright is held by the creator of the art.

I know copyright law. I used to practice and teach it. I can't and don't give legal advice on the internet, but I'm just trying to ascertain some facts by asking about the presence or absence of a copyright notice.

I have that Pat Moore tape somewhere, but I can't find it to look at it myself.

 

[memaquay]

All the Bill Mason stuff is also on YouTube. I did a quick search for Pat Moore, didn't come up with anything.

 

[gumpus]

Is there a copyright symbol or word with a name and date anywhere on the box, the physical tape, or in the content of the tape (usually in the opening or closing credits)? Something like "© 1999 Patrick Moore" or "Copyright 1999 Patrick Moore".

Yes. It says "copyright 1989 Patrick Moore all rights reserved"

 

[gumpus]

All the Bill Mason stuff is also on YouTube. I did a quick search for Pat Moore, didn't come up with anything.

That's one reason I wish his tape was public...he was a paddling legend and disappeared without a trace. He may well have made the best canoe paddles ever.

 

[Mason]

I know copyright law. I used to practice and teach it. I can't and don't give legal advice on the internet, but I'm just trying to ascertain some facts by asking about the presence or absence of a copyright notice.

I remember that you did. That's why I was curious why you had asked. From my understanding, the absence of a copyright notice doesn't mean a lack of copyright protections.

 

[gumpus]

Regardless, the copyright is held by the creator of the art. Unless of course it's already on the web in some site that by using you're relinquishing your reproduction rights (probably most websites, esp. Facebook, whereby joining you basically have no copyright rights). Copying the work of a prior (pre-web) professional production, unless it's specifically in public domain, would go against copyright law and ethics. I know it's done all the time, but.......

The creator passed away and there is no one to contact.

 

[Mason]

The creator passed away and there is no one to contact.

Try the publisher.

 

[gumpus]

Try the publisher.

Produced by Patrick Moore with a P.O. Box number. No other publisher.

 

[memaquay]

Not sure if this applies, but when I was the drama instructor at the school, I decided to perform a play by a little known Canadian author. I contacted the publishing house to arrange to pay royalties, and they said I would have to contact the author directly. They gave me a phone number in Tennessee. I phoned it and asked for the author, a woman with a strong southern accent told me he was dee-ead. I asked about permission to perform the script, she said you have permission. That was it.

 

[Mason]

I phoned it and asked for the author, a woman with a strong southern accent told me he was dee-ead.

It's pronounced day-yed. I have a nephew (Ed) his mother called Ay-yed. His brother (Brian) was called Brine.