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Tent tips from the Creaky Canoeist

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As an old person and charter member of the multiple back surgery club, I am vitally interested in the minutiae of details that make wilderness canoe camping trips workable - even comfortable - for me. Youngsters, keep scrolling. If you have no trouble getting out of your tent and standing up straight in the morning, you wouldn't understand.

One of the biggest pitfalls I see in myself and others who have taken strenuous trips in their youth is that your mind hasn't caught up with your body, especially if you haven't been out in a few years. I find I have the mind of a 20-something planning trips for a body that has aged more than 40 years. In a nutshell, it doesn't work!

In this post I'm going to go through my tent set up in painful detail and show the big and little things that work for me. My basic premise is that everything should be organized into self-contained units that put what you need, where and when you need it. When you overlay the possibility of rain or intense bugs, it makes even more sense. I'm usually matching my process with others 15 years younger than I. My objective is to take pride in my age, frequently the oldest on a trip these days, and not consider it a handicap.

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First the bags. I use a 50 liter Sea to Summit Hydraulic Pro Dry Pack to hold my tent, sleeping bag, air mattress and pump, night time pee bottle and camp shoes.

Tent - I prefer a two person tent for just me with two entrances and two vestibules. The front vestibule holds my clothes bag and I stash my empty Hydraulic Pro Dry Pack, life jacket, paddling shoes (NRS Boundary Boots) and anything else I want to keep under cover in the rear vestibule. I use a Hilleberg Rogen 2 in warm weather and a Hilleberg Allak 2 in colder weather. Both tents I purchased used, as they are very expensive. I have tried quite a few tents and have come to appreciate the build quality of Hilleberg. I keep the tent in a compression stuff sack with the poles, against the advice of Hilleberg.

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Sleeping Bag - My sleeping bag is a Sea To Summit Spark Pro 15° hydrophobic down bag. I get cold easily and this bag works for me. I keep it in a 10 liter dry bag that I use as a stuff sack. This keeps the down sleeping bag dry even when it is packed with a sopping wet tent, which happens.

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Sleeping pad - I used cots in the past and like them, but they are too much weight and volume and I don't like the building a ship in a bottle vibe I get with them. I have settled on the Therm-a-Rest NeoLoft air mattress. It has an R value of 4.7, which is important to avoid having the heat sucked out of you from below. It is about 4-1/2" thick inflated and packs down quite small. I slightly prefer an Exped MegaMat, but the packed size is just too large. I do use a rechargeable Exped Mega Pump to inflate the mattress, which works on the NeoLoft with a provided adapter. It inflates quickly and so far I've used it on up to a 13 day trip without having to recharge it. I also use a cheap, no-name inflatable pillow that I roll up with the air mattress.

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When I get to camp, the first thing I do is scout out my camping spot and shed my life jacket there. Then I go back and get my two dry bags holding my tent/sleeping bag and clothes. My clothes dry bag is a yellow 40 liter roll top Wildheart dry bag, which is very inexpensive on Amazon. I set up the tent and stake out the vestibules (Rogan 2). In the tent I put the green sleeping bag dry bag, the air mattress bag which also holds the pump, and pee bottle. The yellow clothes bag goes under the front vestibule. I can reach anything I need from inside my tent with only unzipping a short section of mosquito netting. From my clothes bag, I also put in tissues, wipes, battery pack with charging cables, a small cordless fan/light, my cell phone and inReach, toiletry kit which also holds my medications, bandaids, Neosporin and moleskin, along with any clothes I may want to change into by morning and my water bottle. If it's going to be cold in the morning, I'll put in a jacket and wool hat.

A note on the Garmin inReach. I keep it clipped to my PFD while paddling. When I get to camp, I clip it to a belt loop. When I'm done using it for the day, it goes in an inside pocket in the tent which also holds my reading glasses, watch and cell phone. In the morning I reverse the order and clip it to my belt loop before getting out of the tent. I'm very intentional about where I put it and seldom put it anywhere else unless it's having trouble connecting. It's a single point of failure for communication, weather and evacuation and every trip someone is temporarily losing theirs. One time on a month long trip, I accidentally clipped it to the back of my PFD and thought I'd lost it. Bad feeling.

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The tent/sleeping bag dry bag, now only holding the tent stuff sack and pole bag, goes in the rear vestibule along with my life jacket, paddling shoes and possibly my grab bag from the canoe. If it's going to rain or I expect heavy dew, I may put my camp chair in too.

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I get in the tent and blow up my air mattress and pillow and set out my sleeping bag. I have everything I need to dive in the tent and not emerge until morning if I should get chased in by foul weather or bugs, and the set up happens very quickly.

In the evening and the morning, I take my medications in the tent. I dress any blisters or cuts with the supplies from my toiletry kit. I charge my phone and inReach every night so I start every day at 100%. In the morning, I put my sleeping bag back in the stuff sack, roll up and put away my air mattress and pillow and put them back in the dry bag in the rear vestibule. I can reach out and put any unneeded or dirty clothes back in my clothes bag in the front vestibule along with the tissues, wipes, battery pack and toiletry kit. I set out any trash and bottles. By this time, I've already worked out some of my morning stiffness. My camp shoes (Humtto water shoes), which I've left in the front vestibule, are ready to be slipped on as I get out of the tent.

At that point, the tent is empty. Once I empty the vestibules, the tent is ready to come down. I take it down and completely pack the Sea to Summit Hydraulic Pro bag before I do anything else. Then I close up the yellow clothes bag and I walk them down to the canoe to be loaded. Only then am I ready to make coffee.
 
Nice post and nice setup with pictures and descriptions. You might want to consider editing the title of your post. I would never have guessed the contents of the post judging from the title.

Alan
 
Nice post and nice setup with pictures and descriptions. You might want to consider editing the title of your post. I would never have guessed the contents of the post judging from the title.

Alan
You are probably right. I wrote it and then tried to figure out which section in this forum I should post it. I also think of it as an installment. There are so many little things I learn on each trip that help me streamline the process. I think as we get older, we all become efficiency experts of a sort. I see people who jumble everything in a couple of big bags and dump them out and go through them at each stop and it works for them, but they are generally younger!

Edited to say: Done!
 
Robert, thanks for that detailed run down of decades of your canoe camping experience along with the pictures. Hope to see you again in the Pine Barrens . . . where you can be on the younger side.

As I've aged, my canoe camping trips have diminished and I've become more of a base camp paddler. But even before that, I began to appreciate the interior space of a (so-called) three person tent and a full size bag chair with solid arm rests. The added weight and bulk did not matter much for river and lake trips with only short or no portages.

Here is the Nemo Losi 3P tent and reclinable GCI chair (which I discuss HERE) that I bought in 2009.

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I liked the chair so much, I bought another one in blue, which I still use on all my trips.

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Last year (2025) Nemo gave me a $400 warranty offer because my Losi tent was degrading, and I used that credit to buy a wide Nemo Roamer air/foam mattress, two wide air/foam pillows, and a tent peg hammer. I'd take the bulky mattress and pillows on a no portage overnight canoe trip, but I'd stick with my compact air mattress and air pillow for portage trips.

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I replaced the Nemo Losi 3P tent with an REI Halfdome 3P, which is a couple pounds heavier but more sturdy and easier to set up.

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I manage to get all my gear, clothing and food in my Duluth Cruiser pack with an eVent waterproof liner inside it, plus a waterproof, rolltop daypack. My tent is inside a waterproof dry bag on top of the Duluth pack underneath the big flap.

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At 75 I no longer use tents except on boat trips. They are becoming less frequent.
I slept in the back of my truck for awhile.
It was an improvement. No tent to set up. Protected from the wind. A little warmer and out of the mud. Now I take a small Rv camping.
 
Robert, thanks for that detailed run down of decades of your canoe camping experience along with the pictures. Hope to see you again in the Pine Barrens . . . where you can be on the younger side.

As I've aged, my canoe camping trips have diminished and I've become more of a base camp paddler. But even before that, I began to appreciate the interior space of a (so-called) three person tent...
I consider a 2 person tent to be a 1-1/2 person tent. When there are two of us, it's nothing smaller than 3 person. I have a Nemo DragonFly OSMO 1 person, but I only use it in severely space restricted places and I really don't care for it.

Last summer on the Big Salmon River, we had to do a number of portages and it inspired me to reduce my, still heavy, pack by 12 lbs. I weigh my bags a lot to track my progress.
 
RPATCH, glad to know that tossing your pfd on a flat spot of ground is a universally acknowledged sign of "that's my tent spot."

Your set-up process sounds much akin to mine. But I must say, in our camps, not much of anything happens prior to the first pot of coffee (or tea) being made in the morning.
 
RPATCH, glad to know that tossing your pfd on a flat spot of ground is a universally acknowledged sign of "that's my tent spot."
Or make a real statement by dropping the big drybag. So here's the question - do you race to grab the best spot, or do you let it rotate around the group. We are usually a group of 3-5 people, and there are often only a couple of nice level tent sites. I don't usually grab the best spot right away, but if I have been sleeping on rocks and roots for a few nights, I'll be more aggressive and drop the big bag.

Your set-up process sounds much akin to mine. But I must say, in our camps, not much of anything happens prior to the first pot of coffee (or tea) being made in the morning.
Yup - first one up (usually me) lights the fire (if we have wood) and gets the coffee going. Before leaving the tent I try to remember to stuff my sleeping bag and any clothes back in their drybags. Otherwise I try not to make too much noice while others are sleeping.

When getting into camp the first thing for me is setting up the tent (or tarp if it is raining). For others it is cracking a beer. To each his/her own.

Always good to hear how other people do stuff. Thanks.
 
Love your post and appreciate all your explanations. One thing you might want to investigate is changing your tent and going to a Seek Outside "Cimarron" shelter. The body only weighs 2 lb. 7 oz. and has a 6' height; which allows for standing up and stretching out your back if need be. For one person this is a palace and will give you plenty of space for your gear, a chair and sleeping area. You can even get one with a stove jack if you want to use this in the shoulder seasons when it might be cold enough to need/want a stove. I have one of their titanium stoves and it weighs less than 3 lbs.

Another advantage to this shelter is you can get a "nest" which is essentially an interior bug shelter. With no floor, tracking in muddy shoes and boots is no longer an issue either. Again, something to consider.

For what it's worth (and no, I don't work for the company!), this type of floorless, rectangular tarp shelter has become my go-to for space, weight, height, etc. all four seasons.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

snapper
 
@RPATCH, this is wonderful. Thanks for taking the time to articulate your process. I'm glad you consider this an installment and that there is more to come! I'd like to know how this subset of your gear fits into your whole kit: canoe grab bag, packed camp chair, etc.
 
Totally surprised there hasn't been any hammocks posted ... I guess it needs to be remedied.

This is my setup from '22 ... it has evolved some, but remains largely as shown

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This is the complete setup, it all packs into the blue gear bag left, red hidden bag (clothes) behind the chair with rain jacket thrown on top and the small bag, on the ground, is the food bag.
Some of the things I really appreciate about the hammock, is 1) no crawling to get out 2) getting up to pee is so much easier (with or without bottle) 3) the view, waking up to woods and lake views
Fortunately, every where I go, has trees .... otherwise .... well, everywhere I go has trees, lol

Brian
 
Or make a real statement by dropping the big drybag. So here's the question - do you race to grab the best spot, or do you let it rotate around the group. We are usually a group of 3-5 people, and there are often only a couple of nice level tent sites. I don't usually grab the best spot right away, but if I have been sleeping on rocks and roots for a few nights, I'll be more aggressive and drop the big bag.

I usually identify a good spot and drop my PFD, but I'm happy to move if it works out better for all. Silly little game, really.

I'll check out the Seek Outside "Cimarron" shelter, but I'm pretty happy with what I have. I really like the fly first pitch of the Hillebergs and I like the pole sleeves in the Rogen. Even when the tent is sopping wet and it's raining out, within a few minutes I have a dry (on the inside) shelter erected. It looks like the Cimarron is a single wall tent with an optional floor and it looks huge. At this point, it's all very personal preferences based on small differences. I already have a full shelf of tents I have tried. I really need more grand kids to pass all my extra gear on to! I have a brand new Kuiu Mountain Star 2 person tent that I bought when I was looking for a used Rogen. Found the Rogen and never used it. I have more! You might say my sickness is in-tents.
 
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