Tractor Seat + nylon pants = PIA

[yknpdlr]

Many marathon canoe racers I know will cut two criticallly placed tail bone holes about 3-4 in diameter in their seat pad for pressure relief. I have not done it myself, but it seems to be a very popular thing to do if you look at their canoes.

 

[Glenn MacGrady]

I've never had Chip's issue on my Hemlock SRT tractor seat, but I began having tailbone pain when driving long distances in my car. A cushion with a tailbone cutout solved the problem.

 

[Chip]

This is an update to report the results of PIA abatements.

1. I got a new “type D” tractor seat from ZRE. I had several conversations with Chad at ZRE regarding the dimensions of the seat frame. I expected to receive the seat with separated mounting tubes and instructions for mounting the tubes to the bottom of the seat. When I opened the box I was surprised the tubes were already mounted and the seat fit perfectly on the Advantage. I paddled for a couple hours yesterday with no trace of the PIA issue. The ZRE seat is a little taller in back than the Wenonah seat and I felt much more locked in. The seat is narrower, and I may add padding at some point.

2. I discovered two makers of nylon pants that don’t have the crossing seams in the back: Patagonia and RailRiders. The water has been too cold to paddle without my drysuit, so I haven’t yet tried just the pants on the Wenonah seat, but under the drysuit neither pant produced PIA. Further testing of just the pants needs to wait for warmer waters.

 

[RBourg]

Please keep us updated with your impression of this seat, it looks like it could be a good upgrade for my J-180.

 

[Alan Gage]

I discovered two makers of nylon pants that don’t have the crossing seams in the back: Patagonia and RailRiders

I've used a few pairs of RailRider pants and have been very happy with them. I have about 80 days of tripping on one pair and other than some ember burns around the ankles they're no worse for wear. I'm sure Patagonia makes a fine pant as well.

Glad to hear the seat is working out so far!

Alan

 

[gumpus]

This is an update to report the results of PIA abatements.

1. I got a new “type D” tractor seat from ZRE. I had several conversations with Chad at ZRE regarding the dimensions of the seat frame. I expected to receive the seat with separated mounting tubes and instructions for mounting the tubes to the bottom of the seat. When I opened the box I was surprised the tubes were already mounted and the seat fit perfectly on the Advantage. I paddled for a couple hours yesterday with no trace of the PIA issue. The ZRE seat is a little taller in back than the Wenonah seat and I felt much more locked in. The seat is narrower, and I may add padding at some point.

2. I discovered two makers of nylon pants that don’t have the crossing seams in the back: Patagonia and RailRiders. The water has been too cold to paddle without my drysuit, so I haven’t yet tried just the pants on the Wenonah seat, but under the drysuit neither pant produced PIA. Further testing of just the pants needs to wait for warmer waters.

Thank you for the update, that's helpful.