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The power of a flash flood on a placid stream
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The fall right after the bridge looked pretty nasty.
It wasn’t a falls as such but some fast water running into the ocean off Sulewasi. Kids were playing in it, having a blast. Brown, brown, brown. I was afraid if what poisons might be in the water.
It wasn’t a falls as such but some fast water running into the ocean off Sulewasi. Kids were playing in it, having a blast. Brown, brown, brown. I was afraid if what poisons might be in the water.
It's amazing how quickly the water levels came up.
It's shocking to watch, and tempting to criticize. The video is instructional, but I hope if I witness such a thing that my first reaction will not be to record it, but rather to do something helpful.
The notion of the "bystander effect" has been around a long time and suggests that people are less likely to help in groups due to diffusion of responsibility and social influence. Phones, as the devices through which we constantly observe and record our circumstances, seem to exacerbate our detachment.
Sort of makes a paddler want to carry a throw bag of rope with them whenever they're near water, whether they have a boat along or not.
We actually had a discussion about that among local friends not long ago. Two recent incidents in which individuals were swept down the class 4 stretch of the Upper Payette next to highway 55 brought that to mind. If only one of the people who happened to be there and trying to help had a throw rope with them....
We are driving next to swift rivers so much of the time, we realize now that it's probably a good idea to keep that rescue equipment in our vehicle even if we're not planning to be on the water. You never know....
And whenever you're near water taking said equipment with you every time you step out of the vehicle. When seconds count it doesn't do much good if the rope bag is in the vehicle a quarter mile away. When you get complacent is when things happen.
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Is that what it is. Bystander effect. Never heard if it. It explains some of the mysterious situations I’ve been in when I’ve been about the least qualified person to help, but the only one who does.
The one that comes to mind was being in the woods with a class of grad students and two teachers. I was one of the students. Another student stepped on a bee nest and was shrieking and crying surrounded and being stung by very angry bees. No one, including the teachers, even said anything to her, much less did anything to help. I ran in, grabbed her hand and told her to run. I hung onto her hand and we ran and ran and ran until the bees were mostly gone. I was stung all over and even had bees under my clothes. She of course was stung much worse.
I remember rescuing my younger brother when he jumped off a pier into Lake Michigan. I was probably about 10 or 11 and he was 2 a half years younger. There were a number of adults and older kids in the immediate vicinity and they just watched as my brother struggled in the water which was about 6’ deep. I jumped in and grabbed him under the arms and started to jump off bottom as we moved toward the shore. The water was over my head but by jumping up off the bottom I soon had my head and my brothers head above the water. I remember my mother started wading into the lake. And I distinctly remember how everyone (adults and older kids) just stood by and watched, so I jumped in.
After high school I was a life guard on Lake Michigan and learned the bystander effect is actually quite common. If we needed people to help us you had to be very directive and even then most didn’t respond.
After high school I was a life guard on Lake Michigan and learned the bystander effect is actually quite common. If we needed people to help us you had to be very directive and even then most didn’t respond.
Know what's happening upstream. Nepal/Tibet flood today:
Know what's happening upstream indeed.
A friend of mine was walking along one of our smaller rivers hunting birds with a buddy. It was early winter, and flow was untypically low. What they didn't know was that there was an ice dam upstream thet had backed up a lot of water. That dam broke while they were walking below the high water line. My friend escaped, but his buddy didn't.
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A friend of mine was walking along one of our smaller rivers hunting birds with a buddy. It was early winter, and flow was untypically low. What they didn't know was that there was an ice dam upstream thet had backed up a lot of water. That dam broke while they were walking below the high water line. My friend escaped, but his buddy didn't.
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"Catastrophic flash flooding in Nepal Wednesday killed more than 300 and left thousands more missing — including over 60 Americans . . . ."
"The flooding is believed to have been triggered when the lower part of a glacier broke off and fell from a height of around 17,000 feet, smashing into a valley floor, creating what is known as an ice avalanche . . . ."
"At least 19 bridges and nearly 25 miles of road were all swept away by the floodwaters, with several villages and hydropower projects also decimated, locals officials said."
Dozens of Americans among thousands missing after deadly flood pummels China-Nepal border
Harrowing footage shows a massive surge of water descending from the mountains and overtaking a border crossing building as dozens of terrified people run for their lives.
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