DIY Cagoule Pattern/Design Discussion

[ScottS]

A cagoule is knee length. The idea was that you could sit and pull your legs up into the cag for an emergency bivvy. With a draw string at the bottom that could be pulled up and cinched at your waist - then it looked like an anorak.

 

[tketcham]

A cagoule is knee length. The idea was that you could sit and pull your legs up into the cag for an emergency bivvy. With a draw string at the bottom that could be pulled up and cinched at your waist - then it looked like an anorak.
I always found the cagoule to be kind of a pain to wear... rather just have a longer anorak.

That's what I remembered. I had a very well made cagoule that I used for a while but don't have it anymore.

 

[panhandlejensen]

There are seams on the body, but they are under the arms on the sides.

My design is a traditional raglan sleeve, which moves the seam from the mid-arm placement to the front and back panels & the sides of course.

 

[lowangle al]

Al, It is 6.25 oz waxed cotton. It is the lightest thinnest weight I could find. It is one step below sailcloth weight. Rewaxable in an individual’s specific areas of revamping and allowing breathability to shine, through wear…. & repairable.

It looks like a nice thin fabric in your photo. I wonder if it's the same weight as what my summer anorak is made from. It feels almost too light to be waxed canvas and it compresses almost as small as a similar nylon one I have.

 

[Boatman53]

So here is my old no longer waterproof cagoule. The sleeves are one piece across the shoulder.

Drawstring at the hem, front pocket, Velcro cuff adjustment, gusset at the neck. The sleeve and hood area are lined with light breathable fabric, not that it would make that much difference being nylon. As said earlier it has an EMS label and I probably bought it in the 70’s as I was doing more mountaineering and hiking than canoeing as I didn’t own a canoe yet.
Jim

 

[panhandlejensen]

So here is my old no longer waterproof cagoule. The sleeves are one piece across the shoulder.
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Drawstring at the hem, front pocket, Velcro cuff adjustment, gusset at the neck. The sleeve and hood area are lined with light breathable fabric, not that it would make that much difference being nylon. As said earlier it has an EMS label and I probably bought it in the 70’s as I was doing more mountaineering and hiking than canoeing as I didn’t own a canoe yet.
Jim

Great Photo! Thanks for sharing it.

 

[Glenn MacGrady]

I'm curious as to what people consider a cagoule vs an anorak (pullover)? I always thought of a cagoule as being a pullover that reached at least to your knees. Some of the designs I'm seeing here are what I would call an anorak, not a cagoule.

More than you ever wanted to know about differences between the word usage of "anorak" and "cagoule" in the following blog article. One mentioned difference is: "An anorak is typically designed for colder weather and is made from heavier materials to provide warmth and protection from the elements. On the other hand, a cagoule is designed to be lightweight and packable, making it ideal for layering or carrying in a backpack."

https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/anorak-vs-cagoule

 

[snapper]

@panhandlejensen - The photo Jim (@Boatman53) posted is essentially the cagoule I have with a couple of exceptions; mine is forest green and it's made of coated nylon. I'm not very tech savvy and rarely post photos so I'll see what I can come up with but didn't want to leave you hanging on your request for a photo of the cagoule I mentioned.

As for the ability to go from hip length down to below the knee; the manufacturer used a simple snap system. There are 4 snaps overall and they are mounted inside the garment so they are never seen from the outside.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

snapper

 

[tketcham]

More than you ever wanted to know about differences between the word usage of "anorak" and "cagoule" in the following blog article.

I'm not sure they really know what either one is either. It reads like an AI piece to start with, and every cagoule or anorak I've seen (or owned) were hooded pullovers, no zippers or buttons other than to close up the neck/chest opening. Anoraks likely originated with far-north indigenous people so zippers weren't even a consideration and cagoules wouldn't include a zipper if weight and water resistance was a priority for use as an emergency bivy. An anorak was longer than a jacket, more like a hooded coat without a zipper or buttons, and a cagoule was basically a long coat (hooded) without a zipper or buttons. Appears to be a matter of semantical, linguistical, grammatical, syntactical, or morphological and sometimes rhetorical usage of words. (Generic emoji?)

 

[panhandlejensen]

I'm not sure they really know what either one is either. It reads like an AI piece to start with, and every cagoule or anorak I've seen (or owned) were hooded pullovers, no zippers or buttons other than to close up the neck/chest opening. Anoraks likely originated with far-north indigenous people so zippers weren't even a consideration and cagoules wouldn't include a zipper if weight and water resistance was a priority for use as an emergency bivy. An anorak was longer than a jacket, more like a hooded coat without a zipper or buttons, and a cagoule was basically a long coat (hooded) without a zipper or buttons. Appears to be a matter of semantical, linguistical, grammatical, syntactical, or morphological and sometimes rhetorical usage of words. (Generic emoji?)

Over the last year and a half I have been gathering information and building what I would describe as an Anorak. I don’t think adding zippers would negate that designation. My focus of intended use has been cold weather environments and only till recently have I been interested in changing that focus toward paddling. I would like to modify the hood to include a removable bug net/mesh and possibly a meshed rear vent. I think it is rad people are sewing their own gear and modifying it to fit their needs. My other focus is the actual cuff. I used to love to paddle with the Marmot Precip Jacket due to the cuff being rubberized when vecro’ed down. I had a Kokotat Jacket that had a cinched down neoprene cuff. I haven’t done a deep dive into cuff design because I have been wearing Leather Choppers which fit inside the cuff. I like to bounce ideas off this group because it has individuals with real world, face at the coals level experience. Titling the thread with “Cagoule” might have been a mistake and slightly misleading. Love to spit ball some stuff off of everyone.

 

[tketcham]

Titling the thread with “Cagoule” might have been a mistake and slightly misleading.

Not at all. It got our attention.

Love to spit ball some stuff off of everyone.

That's the great thing about this forum, though sometimes the discussion gets a bit side-tracked. My apology.

I like the idea of using lightweight waxed cotton. Not necessarily waterproof but certainly useful in keeping the worst of a downpour at bay.

 

[panhandlejensen]

Not at all. It got our attention.

That's the great thing about this forum, though sometimes the discussion gets a bit side-tracked. My apology.

I like the idea of using lightweight waxed cotton. Not necessarily waterproof but certainly useful in keeping the worst of a downpour at bay.

I don’t think coated nylon is the way either. There is an internal downpour. It would be interesting to hear what jackets and the actual functional designs they provide are what people gravitate toward. I found from snowboarding, I really don’t necessarily use pockets during the activity. I don’t like having a pocket on my stomach. Maybe this is a design by elimination. I know I hate having water from paddling go down my sleeve. etc.