I'm going to leave this up just because it is the most impressive Ai post I've seen to date.
Alan
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Happy Blueberry Pancake Day! 🫐🥞🍁
Winter camp is ready to go.
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I'm going to leave this up just because it is the most impressive Ai post I've seen to date.
Alan
It is impressive but how did you know Alan?
Jim
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I can't say it's AI for sure, but the writing seems disjointed (some of mine are too, though), and as for the pic- it's suspicious that the tarp over the wood has a small shadow to the front left, but the same side of the tent doesn't, even under the overhanging edge, and neither do the trees, the dogs shadow is directly below it. Plus the second and third guylines have no visible pegs- either the lighting is incredibly strange or it's stitched from multiple pics...
The watermark is the big giveaway, but its just too perfect. The trees are too symmetrical, the firewood stack is oddly positioned, the snow prints are too clean, the snow is too clean, etc. Image generators also have trouble with lines and connection points under varying tension. You may also notice that neither the tent nor the tarp could actually be rigged this way and remain standing.
Got it thanks.
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There's no doubt that they're gettin' good. Won't be long at all until we'll be wondering: "Is it live (real) or is it Memorex?"
With all the AI, Chat CTP, etc, one has to wonder how we'll discern fact from fiction in a few years, let alone if an aspiring photographer or writer will really stand a chance to earn a living.
With all the AI, Chat CTP, etc, one has to wonder how we'll discern fact from fiction in a few years, let alone if an aspiring photographer or writer will really stand a chance to earn a living.
My first clue was a first time poster responding to an old thread.
Second clue was taking a trip with their "pet dog." I've never heard of a dog owner referring to their 'pet' dog.
And as others mentioned the picture just looked too perfect. There are dog tracks but no human tracks. The poster said they set up while the snow storm was setting it. For that tent setup and a large pile of split wood they sure must have gotten it done in a hurry because I see an even coating of snow on all the surfaces.
That all prompted me to check the IP address which is in......Pakistan.
Alan
Second clue was taking a trip with their "pet dog." I've never heard of a dog owner referring to their 'pet' dog.
And as others mentioned the picture just looked too perfect. There are dog tracks but no human tracks. The poster said they set up while the snow storm was setting it. For that tent setup and a large pile of split wood they sure must have gotten it done in a hurry because I see an even coating of snow on all the surfaces.
That all prompted me to check the IP address which is in......Pakistan.
Alan
Longing for a perminent structure in the same location as my wall tent, i built this little cabin. I still hike here nearly every day with my dogs. I cook breakfast on my cookstove, then mess about the woods. Eventually we hike back home and i stoke the fire to warm the house and prepare supper before my wife comes home.
Yesterday it was bitter cold ... too cold for my old dog Jake. He is 11 and showing his age. So my pup Max ( 16 months ) and I hiked to the cabin in the 10 below temps to start the fire and begin warming the inside. When the fire was burning well and inside temps rose to +20, we hiked the 3/4 mile trail back to the house ... temps now 12 below.
I stoked the fire to keep my house warm, fed my dogs, showed my wife what to do before she went to bed with the fire and hiked in the dark back to the cabin with Max ... temps now 14 below.
A little less than half way to the cabin, the coyotes even greeting was especially riotus. Luckily Max and I have good communication as I had no leash and the yotes were in the neighborhood of my camp
I kept Max next to me the rest of the trek using soft sounds and hand signals. We soon arrived safely at the cabin, 40 above inside temp. ( I am mindful of coyotes here as they have a history of being aggressive and attacking my dogs. )
We spent a pleasant evening. Eventually went to sleep in a warm, but uninsulated cabin ... 70 degrees.
We awoke to 60 degree temps inside, 18 below outside. I am pretty satisfied with the set up. Once insulted and inside finished, i think it will be a very cozy hideaway deep in the timber.
I stoked the fire to keep my house warm, fed my dogs, showed my wife what to do before she went to bed with the fire and hiked in the dark back to the cabin with Max ... temps now 14 below.
A little less than half way to the cabin, the coyotes even greeting was especially riotus. Luckily Max and I have good communication as I had no leash and the yotes were in the neighborhood of my camp
I kept Max next to me the rest of the trek using soft sounds and hand signals. We soon arrived safely at the cabin, 40 above inside temp. ( I am mindful of coyotes here as they have a history of being aggressive and attacking my dogs. )
We spent a pleasant evening. Eventually went to sleep in a warm, but uninsulated cabin ... 70 degrees.
We awoke to 60 degree temps inside, 18 below outside. I am pretty satisfied with the set up. Once insulted and inside finished, i think it will be a very cozy hideaway deep in the timber.
Nice cabin, I enjoyed the pics and story. That wood stove seems very efficient, the insulation will make a big difference in firewood usage.
I have often dreamed of the exact same thing but time slipped by, but I’m happy with my heated shop. It’s good to have a quiet place to escape to.
I have often dreamed of the exact same thing but time slipped by, but I’m happy with my heated shop. It’s good to have a quiet place to escape to.
Nice cabin Bob. Pretty remarkable that temps were 60 degrees when you woke up, with no insulation.
I assume you are able to drive to the cabin site to bring in materials. If not that was a heck of a lot of work.
I assume you are able to drive to the cabin site to bring in materials. If not that was a heck of a lot of work.
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Thanks for sharing your private lair with us. I'm still looking for a place that's close enough to home for winter outings. Thanks for the continued inspiration. Someday I hope to model what you're sharing with us. Until then, I'll live vicariously through you and dream...
That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.
snapper
That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.
snapper
Nothing like being comfortable in a winter camp. We had some great overnight xc ski trips when I was younger. I have a wall tent frame set up in the backyard and tipi poles. I will hang some canvas when the days get a little longer. Great place for a party with friends.
Just attended the convention for the North American Wild Sheep. I looked at several tent manuf including Montana Canvas. Some tents now have a canvas roof but nylon sidewalls to save weight. Some have sides you can unzip and roll up during a warm day. Five foot sidewalls are common and there are even 6 foot sidewalls you can walk under when the side is rolled up. Taller side walls make the tents feel much bigger. Some have floors. Some have a canvas lookout or extension in front of the door.
What is really new are the small silnylon tents with midget wood stoves. Light enough to backpack and easy to carry in a canoe. I like the pyramid/tipi style best. The stoves are small so there is some wood cutting involved. I can think of a lot of trips where that set up would have been very handy and warm to have. My wall tent, and even a 10 foot Baker tent or Mason tent is pretty heavy to carry in a canoe.
I have carried a nylon Whelen lean to for colder weather on canoe trips. Works great with a fire in front to reflect heat even in the cold. It is possible to put a mosquito bar over the top. I have been fascinated by tents my whole life. " Sometimes the best roof is the sky. " Colin Fletcher.
Just attended the convention for the North American Wild Sheep. I looked at several tent manuf including Montana Canvas. Some tents now have a canvas roof but nylon sidewalls to save weight. Some have sides you can unzip and roll up during a warm day. Five foot sidewalls are common and there are even 6 foot sidewalls you can walk under when the side is rolled up. Taller side walls make the tents feel much bigger. Some have floors. Some have a canvas lookout or extension in front of the door.
What is really new are the small silnylon tents with midget wood stoves. Light enough to backpack and easy to carry in a canoe. I like the pyramid/tipi style best. The stoves are small so there is some wood cutting involved. I can think of a lot of trips where that set up would have been very handy and warm to have. My wall tent, and even a 10 foot Baker tent or Mason tent is pretty heavy to carry in a canoe.
I have carried a nylon Whelen lean to for colder weather on canoe trips. Works great with a fire in front to reflect heat even in the cold. It is possible to put a mosquito bar over the top. I have been fascinated by tents my whole life. " Sometimes the best roof is the sky. " Colin Fletcher.
Thanks Al, Cabin was very comy - but - I did stoke the fire about 3 times during the night ... I should have mentioned that in my original post. The cabin has a loft that goes over the porch ... so it has 4 outside walls ... cold air spills down the loft into the main room of the cabin. This cools it down very quickly. Once the ceiling is insulated I believe it will hold heat much better and I will go through less wood.
As to getting materials to the build site. Well, possibly one of the most difficult physical jobs of my life. I plowed snow for just under a mile so I could get enough traction. Then using my 8 N, or a Kubota 4 wheel drive tractor and forks ... and a 5x8 utility trailer ... and nearly 100 trips up a narrow, steep rocky trail ... got sketchy at times. Once the material was up to the site, I placed on blocks to keep off the ground, and tarped to keep more snow off. I used my wall tent with stove as a warming shelter ( so glad I did! ) . Getting material to the site was far more exhausting than the build.
Next step is to replenish my coffers ... then begin the inside work.
Bob.
As to getting materials to the build site. Well, possibly one of the most difficult physical jobs of my life. I plowed snow for just under a mile so I could get enough traction. Then using my 8 N, or a Kubota 4 wheel drive tractor and forks ... and a 5x8 utility trailer ... and nearly 100 trips up a narrow, steep rocky trail ... got sketchy at times. Once the material was up to the site, I placed on blocks to keep off the ground, and tarped to keep more snow off. I used my wall tent with stove as a warming shelter ( so glad I did! ) . Getting material to the site was far more exhausting than the build.
Next step is to replenish my coffers ... then begin the inside work.
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It didn’t even occur to me that this was AI. Your comments and re-inspection, I see your points. I will have to be more careful.
there are actually some free online courses that teach you to spot the errors, I took in a 4hour online seminar put on by the media arts program at a local college- it was free, but you had to attend by Zoom.
the salient points were 1) look at shadows if they seem to have different orientations, different shading, or are missing or exist when they shouldn't, it's probably AI, 2) look at "end points"- corners, lines, and angles- if you follow them and they seem to disappear in mid air, or converge at weird angles, it's probably AI, and 3) continuity- do colors, patterns, or textures change abruptly when they shouldn't, are there repeats of then, do proportions seem strange?
so, now- look at the pic; under )1 you can see a slight shadow to the front left of the woodpile, there should also be the same shadow under the overhang of the tent on the left, as well as shadows under the trees, the dog's shadow is directly below it and also appears to be to the right slightly.
2) end points- on the facing side of the tent there should be visible pegs for all the tie outs considering their size, in the far front corner, you'll notice a very abrupt kink in the supporting pole right where the flap is tied, yet the canvas appears to be straight, and when you look at the firewood, the tarp should be pulling away from the weird angled pole, not pushing towards it, and would require a peg and line, neither of which is visible, and the ridge line is extremely straight considering the size of the stick being used for it and the tension applied by both the way it's pegged and the snow load.
3) The snow- the dog has clearly left wet prints to and from the tent, but there is only a single set there should be a second set coming from the tent unless it teleported to it's present position, plus you see some wet spots in front of the tent from foot traffic, but the foot prints coming from the bottom left to the tent show no sign of wetness (lower your brightness) and the final kicker, it appears to be snowing heavily in the back ground but there is little snow in front of the dog, nor is there any appreciable amount on it's fur.
I'm sure I could find another 1/2 dozen errors if I tried, like the 3' gap in the smoke plume... but you get the idea
My conclusion, only the dog is real- the rest is a rather poor stitch job
I hope this helps people be more critical of ANY images they see, another big part is how well and how much do you trust the poster, and what are their motives for posting?
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