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AI and on-line posers

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The beauty of dedicated forums such as Canoetripping is that you get a dedicated base of folks who have a wide range of experience that can generally be trusted. Most opinions are based in years of practice and real life experience, and even if one doesn't agree, there is usually respect for the opinion.

Not so on other social media platforms, such as Facebook, where the worst advice is often given in the comments, by people professing to have all kinds of qualifications and experience. Then there are the youtube videos, posted by people proclaiming to be experts, but camping a few meters from their off-camera vehicle.

Now, however, I fear there is a new kind of poser, the GPT chat kind, who enters a forum or social media platform with very little real knowledge, but uses AI to generate input and answers.

When I think of my own on-line learning experience in things like canoe tripping and canoe building, it came from many years of online participation and actual experiences.

I wonder if AI has the potential to speed up the learning process, or if it will just be used to build on-line personalities devoid of any real knowledge. I know when my students use AI (a growing problem), they seldom use it to gain knowledge. They just generate product. When you ask them specific questions about their product, they usually have no answers.

In short, is there a possibility a new type of forum participant might evolve? Will it be a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? Or is Skynet really here, and will it attempt to assimilate Canoetripping?
 
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Yeah, I think we've been invaded:
"While carrying rope isn't universal for flatwater trips, it's certainly not uncommon! The amount and type you choose often depends on personal preference and perceived risk. Some opt for lighter static lines (around 6mm) to handle basic tasks like securing gear or towing in calm conditions. Others, venturing further or expecting trickier situations, might prefer thicker dynamic lines (up to 8mm) for their shock absorption and rescue potential.

Ultimately, the key is finding a balance between weight, strength, and intended use. As for length, 50-75ft seems to be a popular range for day trips, providing flexibility without becoming cumbersome. So, whether you're a minimalist packer or a safety-first paddler, there's a rope option out there that fits your flatwater adventures!"
 
Like it or not, I found vetting new members with 3 canoe related questions solved these issues. This young lady from India would not have passed the test.
 
I thought the post was unusual in that it sounds more like a section taken from a canoeing "guide book" than a typical response based on experience.
That author (?) posted another similar response in another thread.
 
I moderate a home brewing forum. We can identify the AI posts pretty easily, they have a particular style. But it's young technology, who knows what the future holds?
 
Yeah, I think we've been invaded:
"While carrying rope isn't universal for flatwater trips, it's certainly not uncommon! The amount and type you choose often depends on personal preference and perceived risk. Some opt for lighter static lines (around 6mm) to handle basic tasks like securing gear or towing in calm conditions. Others, venturing further or expecting trickier situations, might prefer thicker dynamic lines (up to 8mm) for their shock absorption and rescue potential.

Ultimately, the key is finding a balance between weight, strength, and intended use. As for length, 50-75ft seems to be a popular range for day trips, providing flexibility without becoming cumbersome. So, whether you're a minimalist packer or a safety-first paddler, there's a rope option out there that fits your flatwater adventures!"
I agree, that reply stood out like a fart in church.
 
This AI is a very new thing for me still, so the only place I've encountered it that I'm aware of has been my browser asking me if I'd like to chat with it and ask any questions.
Last week my elderly brotherinlaw took the bus down from the great mild north and found himself a little turned around, down in the bowels of Toronto's Union Staion. He tells us a young lady in uniform came up to him to provide assistance. She worked for the station we believe. She was indispensible, even escorting him all the way to his departure point. He'd still be there if it wasn't for her, a lonely old man in a sea of holiday travellers. Or he could have tippity tappity buttoned his way thru his phone apps and prompts to navigate the digitally unfathomable. Not forgetting to download the latest upgrade. Again. Here, scan this QR code to...
Isn't nice to meet a human once in awhile!?
Remember that Woody Allen movie, in which sex in the future involves stepping into a steel cubicle and punching in a few buttons? Alone.
We've almost arrived at our next destination, where we can access all the chit chat we could ever hope for, some of it even quasi-informational, and never leave home, all based on real human experiences. Contrived and uploaded for our convenience by bots on the ethernet.
How very helpful. Kinda like a 50's Swanson TV dinner for our souls.
 
I know when my students use AI (a growing problem), they seldom use it to gain knowledge. They just generate product. When you ask them specific questions about their product, they usually have no answers.
Nothing new there. That's what I did with an encyclopedia and it's what the next generation did with Google. No doubt the previous generations, however, were studious and hard working young angels who never cut corners.

Back in the golden olden days of internet forums posers had to flip through the pages of a book for information collected by an expert which they could then recite with confidence. At least this new AI method eliminates the paper cuts.

Alan
 
Baseball reporting and fiance has been AI generated for many years. Apparently because statistics for each made it easier to adapt than other subjects


What surprises me is the AI I'm encountering isn't doing amazing things that people couldn't do. It's doing things that people normally do, but messing it up in different ways. Like putting together fake reviews of a canoe.

Maybe I'll have to ask chatbot GPT to generate the first round of data for my next trip.
 
Like it or not, I found vetting new members with 3 canoe related questions solved these issues. This young lady from India would not have passed the test.
What are the three questions I must answer to prove I'm a real human who loves canoes?
 
They varied but one was “name your favorite canoe brand”, another was “the last place you paddled a canoe or where you might want to paddle a canoe”, can’t remember a third off hand.
 
When I was in high school a really long time ago, my go to source for reading classic literature for English class was Dell Classic comic books. It always surprised me how well I did in those classes. Maybe AI would be even faster.
 
I had to install some questions on my Greenstone Canoe Routes page on Facebook, as I was getting 3 to 5 spammers a week who got through. I asked what their favorite canoe was and I think what their favorite route was.
Some are still getting through. Probably AI.
 
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