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canoe paddle grip modifications

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My normal paddling style is not very normal, I like to use straight shaft paddles for hit and switch paddling to drive upstream on rivers. I like a slower cadence than a bent shaft paddle wants and I like a straight shaft for boat control when cruising or just playing around. When using a straight shaft this way I like to have some level of T-grip to give a feeling of security that the paddle won't fly out of my hands...plus for me a T seems best to help know and control the blade angle. So over time I've modified some of my grips.

First three shown are all Grey Owl Freestyles. First grip is stock, second is lightly modified, and third is more heavily T'ed. The last paddle on the right is a Bending Branches Beavertail that I tweaked a bit.

Does anyone else modify their paddle grips?

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The paddle on the far left is the grip I like best. Very comfortable in my hands and rotates well during strokes. Over the years I've tried a lot of different paddles/grips. For me the T is the least friendly in my hands. The second paddle from the left is how I end up building them trying to imitate the first paddle. Plus every paddle I've built the shoulders on the blade come off off balanced. Kind of why I gave up making paddles. Also, I have two Mitchell's that I use, one a bent shaft at 48" and my primary is a double bent at 50". I'm a short guy so they work for me. The double is a carbon fiber blade and the shaft is...used to know but not sure now. Both very light. The only time I work on paddle grips is when I build them.
 
I make my own paddles and if I buy a composite ww paddle I make my own T grips.
 
I just use stock ash Porter's or DriKi beavertails with a palm grip like the one on the left. I have tried others and never felt as comfortable as I was with a one piece symmetrical grip.
 
All 3 Grey Owls we use have the stock pear shaped grip. I don't see white water, and am rarely in any situation where I need a great deal of leverage, so a smoother feel of gentle palm swell suits me just fine. Easy to slide it around 360 whenever, and still can find the grip. Interesting idea though, customizing grips.
 
I modify all my paddles to have a pear shaped grip. A lot of the time I use an "Indian stroke" with an in water recovery which requires a palm roll every stroke. This shape makes that easy. I have modified other peoples paddles to this grip shape. They call it the "Turtle grip"
 
I like the pear grip, but I have found that since my hand injury, I have better control with a T grip. Only grip I've modified so far was a too fat pear grip on a bargain ottertail I have. I slimmed it up to where it feels good. I don't think I'd see any advantage to making the ottertail grip a T (scary thought!). Not sure I'm willing to change my Sugar Island paddles to T grips yet, but it might be in the cards. Until then, I have my ugly T-grip paddles for heavy river work.
 
I have made modifications to paddle grips on a few paddles.

On manufactured paddles I have sanded the varnish off the grip, sanded and sanded and sanded until baby butt cheek smooth, and laid on multiple coats of oil. The oil feels silkier in rotation and only takes a few seconds to reoil after a trip. And I like the patina an oiled grip slowly develops.

I have a few DIY paddles, my work and that of friends, and have done some minor reshaping on those, to eliminate a too abrupt edge or to better fit my hand.

Admittedly I use a double blade most of the time, but when I do go to a single I want it to feel just right.
 
Thanks for the comments everyone, it's fun to hear what people like (and it would be fun to SEE what people like...hint hint). It's cool to see how many people prefer traditional paddles and grips...I do agree that a T seems wrong on a long-bladed paddle.

Hey Steve, when I broke my right wrist I learned to write left handed and sometimes I paddle on my offside just to try to develop the skill. Not sure if that could be another way to accommodate your hand injury.

Turtle - we all want to see a Turtle Grip!

Mike - fully agree on getting rid of varnish so your hands touch the wood directly. All 3 modified paddles in my pic were stripped of varnish from the grip and shaft and then oiled. The shiny grips are from use.

Since Mike confessed to using a double blade I'll confess that I switched to carbon paddles about 20 years ago and mostly wanted to start a new thread since I felt bad about criticizing Doug's pink webbing.

My favorite paddle is a Black Bart Troublemaker straight shaft. Grip shown below. It's a nice grip for all around use but something bigger/fuller like a Zav grip can be nice for traveling and something more pear-like is nice sometimes too.

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gumpus, nobody should ever feel bad about talking about that pink webbing seat! Hurts my eyes to look at it and in the end the sliding seat came in on time, going to install it this weekend, so the pink seat is going to be a wall decoration...just not in my shop! I have enough strange things going on there without that! BTW, what is your address gumpus? :o
 
I know there are other paddles with this grip, but honestly I had never seen one when I created this shape.
 

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Apparently I'm in the minority but honestly, I put paddles back on the rack if they don't feel right. With what decent paddles cost these days I don't need to make a purchase and then have to alter it. That's kind of like always buying pants that don't fit so you can immediately alter them so they do. Just keep going down the rack. You'll find something that will fit your needs.

While I admire all the folks who continually share their building techniques here, I just can't see the need to purchase a paddle and then have to reshape the grip. It makes no sense to my limited mindset :confused:

That's all for now. Take care and until next time....be well.

snapper
 
I know there are other paddles with this grip, but honestly I had never seen one when I created this shape.

Thank you for sharing Turtle. Those grips do look comfy! Coincidentally I was just looking at the Downcreek Paddle website recently and they have a couple of grips that are similar to yours. Unfortunately they are going out of business and will stop taking orders after April. Other than that I've only seen grips like that in old pictures or paintings of native americans.

http://www.downcreekpaddles.com/grips/
 
Apparently I'm in the minority but honestly, I put paddles back on the rack if they don't feel right. With what decent paddles cost these days I don't need to make a purchase and then have to alter it. That's kind of like always buying pants that don't fit so you can immediately alter them so they do. Just keep going down the rack. You'll find something that will fit your needs.

While I admire all the folks who continually share their building techniques here, I just can't see the need to purchase a paddle and then have to reshape the grip. It makes no sense to my limited mindset :confused:

That's all for now. Take care and until next time....be well.

snapper

I have a grand total of *one* paddle that I bought new from the maker at list price. All I've ever done to it is re-varnish. All the rest came in package deals with various canoes I bought and sold, were drastically reduced at sale price, or were CL finds. Bargains, all. So I had to fit them a little to my liking. A couple of wood paddles were way too long but otherwise nice paddles, so I cut off the grip with a little shaft, cut a section of shaft out, and finger jointed them back together. Was a challenge to get that joint lined up, but they've held up for years - and look kind of unique.
 
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I know there are other paddles with this grip, but honestly I had never seen one when I created this shape.

The last one is one nice grip!!

And Snapper, that is why I make my own paddles and that include the grip, cause the grip that I like the most is no body makes them!

Paddles are "easy" to make and fun, and it let you experiment with different shape, size on the blade and grips for way cheaper than you can buy one new!!
 
I think I might try stripping the varnish off and oiling the grips and lower shaft. Maybe we don't paddle hard enough or far enough, as the varnished paddles are never uncomfortable on a trip, but a less polished feel might improve with the feel.
 
I think I might try stripping the varnish off and oiling the grips and lower shaft. Maybe we don't paddle hard enough or far enough, as the varnished paddles are never uncomfortable on a trip, but a less polished feel might improve with the feel.

I have not removed the varnish from the shafts, only from the grips. In part because grip stripped only makes occasional reoiling quick and easy, in part because the varnish on the shaft has never really bothered me.

That varnished shaft layer may be beneficial in prys and other abuse. I know I want the blade and neck sealed with more than just oil, and just leave most of the shaft OEM varnished, only sanding and oiling down an inch under the grip.

It is easy to run a wrap of tape around the shaft an inch down for a well defined varnished to oiled transition, and I fair out the slightly raised varnish to oil edge with a little wet sanding.

OK, even a varnished grip does not really bother me, and most of our loaner and back up single blades still have varnished grips. But the couple I really like, the ones that fit me just right, have oiled grips.

It is a little thing, but the tactile feel of smooth oiled wood on my palm and fingers feels more pleasant and more connected to wood, not plastic.

That said

Since Mike confessed to using a double blade I'll confess that I switched to carbon paddles about 20 years ago

Me too. Pricey lightweight carbon double blades, some custom length beyond the usual 250cm offerings. If I am a double blading most of the time avoiding the swing weight penalty is important to me. Twice as weight important as with a single blade. You know what they say. . . .

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The single blade, almost always a laminated wood straight shaft, is my back up paddle, abused under sail gunwale pry rudder, poked and prodded as a Crap, shallowed out push paddle.

I accept carrying that paddle in heavier weight for proven strength and durability. I am not abusing a carbon shaft in that manner, and I can strip, sand and refinish a wood paddle blade and shaft easy enough. Composite sticks, meh, no so much.

Gumpas, I had a Black Bart bent shaft for a few years. I am not, for my typical uses, a bent shaft user. I loaned it to a single blade friend during one trip and his absolute delight with that paddle was such that I had no choice but to let him keep it.

I pretend to steal it back every year, despite knowing I would never use it.

Last time I stole it some trailer camper folks were interested in the Tripping Truck outfitting. Before they came by to visit I snatched his Black Bart, put it in a paddle sock, and put that in the long side lockbox in the truck bed.

I was showing the trailer folk the tripping trucks various comforts, bedside table and fan and reading lights, when I opened the side box and explained that some of my paddles and sails would be irreplaceable on the road, so I keep them locked up and protected.

I pulled his Black Bart from that locked side box, extracted it from the sock, held it up and exclaimed lovingly that Yeah, they do not make these anymore.

The 10 seconds between that exclamation of rarity and his shout of Hey, thats my F*&#@* paddle! was so well worth the sneaky foreplay.
 
I rely on the Canadian stroke a good deal of the time, and the Indian stroke for when my bow mate is pausing often for reverie or rest; we strive for quiet paddling. Although I have heard the tock of shaft on gunnel, particularly in bumpy water, I see no nicks or scratches. No real gunnel bashing, but there is no sense in removing the varnish where it is needed most, paddle blade and mid-shaft. I'm just pondering the notion of a more tactile connection where my hands spend time, the grip and a 6" section of shaft up from the throat. Goodness knows I have enough to do without giving myself sanding exercises. But maybe. Maybe.
 
Yes the grip and the shaft feel like velvet once the varnish is removed, the fine fine grit ebony paper used and a starting coat of oil. You hands will oil the grip and shaft later by themselves.
Yes its all in the ...touch... and .. the caress...
 
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