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1994 MR Sunrunner Refurb Update

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Progress as it currently stands...
  • All wood has been refinished to "natural" look.
  • Seats caned
  • Floor painted
  • Thwart extended
Still working on...
  • Couple chips and spider cracks
  • Noseguards to protect gunnel tips/ends
  • Contemplating skid plates
  • Mounting roof rack to freag'n Astro Van. Sounds like weatherproof Rivnuts are the answer.
  • Researching Ancient Alien gravity manipulation techniques (i.e. 1,500 ton stone at Baalbek Lebanon) to make this thing lighter for portaging
 

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Nice looking boat. Let me know when you start making progress on that last one, I'd like to get in as an investor on the ground floor.

Mark
 
Thanks everyone. Any constructive criticism on the "purple" floor? The camo duck boat paint I picked out is called "Earth Brown" and it looked entirely different in the store. The original floor color (see photo) I unlovingly refer to as "Synthetic Flesh" so hopefully a step in the right direction from that. The three people I have shown the paint job say the color works however I can't keep from seeing purple.
 

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It’s freag’n gorgeous.

Still working on...

Couple chips and spider cracks
Noseguards to protect gunnel tips/ends
Contemplating skid plates
Mounting roof rack to freag'n Astro Van. Sounds like weatherproof Rivnuts are the answer.
Researching Ancient Alien gravity manipulation techniques (i.e. 1,500 ton stone at Baalbek Lebanon) to make this thing lighter for portaging

Gel coat for the chips and spider cracks, or ?

Brass corner guards cut/bent/brazed to shape?
https://www.rockler.com/solid-brass...MIs6mDu9Hh4QIV2FqGCh2u0QKcEAQYBCABEgLgrvD_BwE

Or something custom formed/fitted like Kydex?

You know my thoughts on skid plates. Dynel top layer, and an underlayer of some cloth laid on the bias, with graphite powder and black pigment in the epoxy coats, and peel ply compression. I have the last of our canoes that needs skid plates in the shop; the underlay is going to be some heavyweight bias woven 1 ½” wide E-glass tape. (And by golly I’d like to find S-glass tape).

Freag'n Astro Van. ‘Nuff said.

Rollers, capstans, pulley blocks and 500 helpers? (Thanks, the Baalbek Stones were interesting to look up)

https://www.ancient-origins.net/opinion-guest-authors/forgotten-stones-baalbek-lebanon-001865

Or maybe a portage cart where applicable? I use a cart between the truck racks and water when there is a smooth-ish path, and load the canoe with some lightweight stuff on the way down (and when coming back out) to help hasten my entry or exit. Most other carries, unless it is a groomed cart trail, a portage cart is just not worth it.

What’s the (almost) finished weight on the Sunrunner?

I can't keep from seeing purple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkkIwO_X4i4
 
Thanks Mike,
Did a bit more reading this morning on gel coat repair and it certainly seems like using gel coat to fix gel coat is the best answer and just live with the unavoidable color difference. When the project first started I had thoughts of keeping it as unmolested (visually) as possible and selling it for more of a beater/tripper however I never found that next boat. I'll consider this fate and take this thing into Quetico this summer. The spider cracks are below the water line so they do need attention. Darn.

In keeping things light, the Kydex looks promising. Whatever material is used, I wish to use the existing 2 gunwale screw holes at the very tip. Was thinking about a leather strap as well. May search the thrift stores for an oxford with just the right shape.

It weighs 67 lbs bare according to the catalog and I've weighed it at both 64 & 68 depending how far I stick out my tummy when on the scale. I can easily shoulder it and honestly it does not seem heavy while plodding around the back yard intentionally disturbing the neighbors. However on our last trip (ultralight boat) we logged 10,350M in portaging in 6.5 days of travel with 7 portages 500M or longer. The 600-800M ones certainly tested my limits.

Baalbek is definitely a head scratcher and even more so the video link you sent! ;)
 
Completely off-topic...

Hey Dogbrain/Mark (or whomever wants to try solving this puzzle)
I think I've got the gravity manipulation thing figured out (see first photo). I took this photo a number of years back when working for a granite quarrier/fabricator as it completely threw me for a loop when I walked by. Each of those granite slabs weighs about 1.5 tons and note how many are being lifted off the pile by the suction cups. Any ideas??

Also threw in a photo for all the woodsmen that may happen to read this. Chainsaw envy anyone??

Peace,
Micah
 

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Very nice looking canoe! You know, it was not that long ago when 65 pounds was considered to be quite light for a canoe. I don't think that weight is prohibitive, maybe work on some Ancient Alien Mind techniques to convince yourself that 65 pounds is reasonable, or order what we in the north refer to as a "pussy pad" a cordura-sponge thing to put on your carrying thwart. Otherwise, you will start the swift descent into poverty as you attempt to get the lightest boat in existence, which will indeed be made with Ancient Alien technology, with the corresponding price tag.

As for the big chainsaw, whoever is maintaining that thing needs a kick in the balls, looks rustier than my 1980 K car.
 
Nice work, good as new. But since you ask, yes, it looks fat in purple but at this point in the relationship I'd just smile and say I love it, it looks beautiful. Spider crack touch up fix yes - more lipstick and rouge cap ends and skid plates no. heck no. And btw it's a tandem, so unless those internet dating sites aren't working for you I'd guess you have this canoe to share with another younger, stronger more silent type of paddling person. Which means you only have to cover half the portages with this big beautiful purple thing on your shoulders. Starting to sound better already, eh? As for the Astro van, meh. If it goes then drive it. There're a lot worse wheels on the road than an Astro van, and I've not only driven them I've owned them. And if you're feeling particularly sassy the Astro is rear wheel drive so it would suit pulling a boat trailer, which would make loading/unloading The Big Purple even easier. Starting to sound even better, eh? Good luck with this tripper, I'd love to see a TR.
And btw applying Ancient Alien Mind Techniques will only result in you waking up one morning to a whole bunch of crop circles in the yard.
 
Thanks so much for the smiles this morning everyone.
  • The yoke will definitely get a pad no doubt...and no apology either. We travel quite minimalist but the pad is a must for me.
  • OK...I'l stop whining about the weight. Still under the impression/delusion that the energy saved in paddling this efficient hull will make up for the portaging weight.
  • Hopefully my 6'1" son will again join me on the next trip. The trick is getting him to realize he is stronger than me and also getting him to engage in conversation with his dad...Which is perfect in the woods...
  • Contemplating end caps because (depending on how much wind is blowing or how long the day was) it is sometimes nice to shoulder the canoe with the nose on the ground meaning rocks. Definitely not for looks but instead protection.
  • Skid plates??? Now I'm on the fence. Definitely like the looks of the sharp entry point(s) and anticipate it being a swift & silent boat. I pretty much avoid rivers so maybe should just leave it alone??
  • Astro Van stays...Exterior-grade Rivnuts & Red Green engineering at some point this summer for the rack.
  • Will definitely share a trip report this fall.
  • Crop circles are already here...or possibly it's just grub worms??
 
The yoke will definitely get a pad no doubt...and no apology either. We travel quite minimalist but the pad is a must for me.

Contemplating end caps because (depending on how much wind is blowing or how long the day was) it is sometimes nice to shoulder the canoe with the nose on the ground meaning rocks. Definitely not for looks but instead protection.


Now I'm on the fence. Definitely like the looks of the sharp entry point(s) and anticipate it being a swift & silent boat. I pretty much avoid rivers so maybe should just leave it alone??

Crop circles are already here...or possibly it's just grub worms?

The more comfortable the yoke the less the hull seems to weigh. Yes to some pads or padding, whatever feels best on your shoulders. Which are not my shoulders. I really like the comfort of a deep sculpted yoke, even without additional paddling.

I am not thigh flipping a 65lb onto my shoulders anymore, and usually grind the stern deck plate into the ground while I walk my way back under the yoke on our heavier boats. And it shows on the stern deck plates of those abused canoes.

Abuse the deck plate, or my tender back? Doesn’t need much thought; I can fix deck plates, no specialist yet has been able to fix my spine. Some protective/sacrificial end cap on the stern would be beneficial.

Dynel skid plates? Oh heck yes! Properly installed, with repeated peel ply compression, a single layer Dynel skid plate rests flush and silent, and provides incredible abrasion resistance. Blacked out with graphite powder and black pigment they look just fine.

If you want to skip the black contrast just pigment the epoxy white (cream) and the skidplates will be all but invisible. And, bonus, will scratch white on white.

Not sure those crop circles in your lawn are grub worms. Maybe Basidomycetes “fairy circles”.

I am of the belief that a slurry of Basidomycetes fungi were used by ancient aliens to grease the rollers while moving the Baalbek stones. I read it on a Flat Earth blog, so it must be true.
 
Sorry but again there is a response awaiting me that I somehow missed however lots have happened in my canoetripping world in the past couple months so will share what I have learned in a another post string hopefully soon...today...???
  • End Cap/Hood Ornament: I toyed with the idea shown in the photo but went another direction as to be less offensive. Plan now is to cleverly wrap the mooring line around the nose in a protective manner. I have worked on this for possibly 4 solid weekends thus far and have yet to get it just right but know there is a way out there as long as I keep swearing at. The "clever" component eludes me.
  • FINALLY got the boat in the H2o and it goes like a streak so plan to do the Dynels soon. Sold the vintage Sawyer canoe paddles as both my son and I preferred the bent-shafts as we consciously paid attention to performance, fit, feel, etc. Money will go towards yoke pads and/or possibly wider seats??
  • I think you're definitely onto something with the Basidomodeocydeohodeomyomyfragelistic grease and the Baalbek stones. I bet they used this same concoction to waterproof the massive boats (seriously) they have dug up aside the pyramids. (Yeah...Big boats buried in the desert...Why???...Ancient structures astrologically aligned by stone-age man...Identical flood stories from the dawn of time from all corners of the globe...Nibiru...Annunaki...)
  • The Sunrunner has finally been mated to the freag'n Astro. Post coming soon...
 

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End Cap/Hood Ornament: I toyed with the idea shown in the photo but went another direction as to be less offensive.

I do like that bowsprit.

Oft told prankster tale. Years ago we were on a stretch of the Blackwater River east of the eponymously named Wildlife Refuge boundaries and took a leg stretcher walk in the (no low branches) Virginia pine forest, where we found a beautifully DIY’ed, 30 foot dado runged ladder leaning up against a pine. Someone had floated it out to the island and left it in place to use with their portable deer stand.

A couple weeks later we went back. With a nice yard sale multi-point buck deer wall mount. And a hammer and nails.

That mount was gone soon after opening day, and a variety of yard sale find hunting and fishing trophies replaced it on subsequent trips to the island; squirrels and trout and a scruffy grouse.. I couldn’t find a yard sale Jackalope back east, and I had friends looking for cheap mounts.

I have always wondered about how that tale went, in the diner with hunting buddies.

“How’d ya do?”
“Got a me 6-pointer without firing a shot”

The nonsense went on for a several years.

“How was the Trophy Tree this year Bubba?”
“Hot dang, got me a swordfish this time!”
 
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