The Grande Ronde is a fun trip. We did the Minam to Troy section many years ago. Pretty country--no idea on water levels.
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Request for Insight on the Owyhee River, Oregon
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The Grande Ronde River is my favorite of all time. The wildlife safari. Wild and Scenic River requires firepan and portable sanitation. Clean and gorgeous camp sites. Great vegetation types. It is remote in a deep canyon. Few roads.
We put in at Minam and took out at Boggan's Oasis in Washington State. About 78 miles in a week. It was at 3000-5000m cfs. A deep canyon.
We took rafts. Lots of drift boats. Few canoes except experts. Bighorn sheep, elk crossing the river, and bald eagles all day long. I took a nap and woke with a fawn staring at me from 8 feet.
We put in at Minam and took out at Boggan's Oasis in Washington State. About 78 miles in a week. It was at 3000-5000m cfs. A deep canyon.
We took rafts. Lots of drift boats. Few canoes except experts. Bighorn sheep, elk crossing the river, and bald eagles all day long. I took a nap and woke with a fawn staring at me from 8 feet.
Sounds like it's changed a bit since I paddled it in 1988. No other boats, no restrictions, me in my Wenonah WWC1, brother,his wife and toddler in my old Penobscot, and friend in probably a kayak (or maybe a MR Explorer). Certainly nice trip and good country.
@Pseudonym , you might also want to consider the John Day from Clarno to Willow Creek.
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@Steve in Idaho, good advice! We did the John Day in '22. At 14,000+ CFS, it was a lot to handle but we made our way through it. The upshot was that the whole canyon was especially green and verdant.
Here's a glamour shot of my finest work on the John Day, in front of an appreciative crowd:
@Steve in Idaho, good advice! We did the John Day in '22. At 14,000+ CFS, it was a lot to handle but we made our way through it. The upshot was that the whole canyon was especially green and verdant.
Here's a glamour shot of my finest work on the John Day, in front of an appreciative crowd:
The John Day is a classic river for canoes. It changes character above around 5000 cfs. The Class II rapids get pushy with huge wave trains. Many turn into II plus or IIIs.
The rapids are in rocky knick points with steep canyon walls. Lining is not possible. I had my brother and dog get out to walk around one and it took 45 minutes. My friend cracked up his old fiberglass canoe. We pounded the boat back into shape and got home with a roll of duct tape. Eddy shopping the whole way.
My brother and I swamped our canoe in big waves and paddled ashore up right with the boat totally submerged.
I think the John Day is a much better alternative to the Owyhee River.
The rapids are in rocky knick points with steep canyon walls. Lining is not possible. I had my brother and dog get out to walk around one and it took 45 minutes. My friend cracked up his old fiberglass canoe. We pounded the boat back into shape and got home with a roll of duct tape. Eddy shopping the whole way.
My brother and I swamped our canoe in big waves and paddled ashore up right with the boat totally submerged.
I think the John Day is a much better alternative to the Owyhee River.
We did the JD in April, before the spring runoff. I'd have to check my records, but it was definitely considered low flow. Crux of Clarno was reduced to an impenetrable rock garden with a narrow chute (little more than canoe width) next to a deep recirculating hole. I was loaded down in my MR Guide, and chose to line the crux on river left. Wasn't an easy path through the rocks and willows, but not bad. It does have a good portage trail on river left.
Basalt was a gas. Most people would want to go around the right side of the big rock. I took the left channel, which dumped me into the side of the bottom of the main chute at a 90° angle. Lifting my upstream knee hard against the thigh strap as the current hit me worked better than I expected it to, and launched me upright into the wave train below. I'd take that line again, just for the fun of it.
The rest was all mild wave trains and scenery.
Basalt was a gas. Most people would want to go around the right side of the big rock. I took the left channel, which dumped me into the side of the bottom of the main chute at a 90° angle. Lifting my upstream knee hard against the thigh strap as the current hit me worked better than I expected it to, and launched me upright into the wave train below. I'd take that line again, just for the fun of it.
The rest was all mild wave trains and scenery.
I just realized that we ran the section from Service Creek to Clarno.
