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Why am I the only one in a Canoe?

I paddled out to Midnight Pass and across the Intracoastal on Saturday, too windy to go out into the Gulf. As usual, I was the only canoe.
SUP’s outnumbered kayaks this week. Many if not most were inflatable SUP’s. I have been talking to their owners and they all like the ease of transportation and storage and don’t seem to mind the time it takes to inflate them before launching. A few weeks ago I was talking to a guy waiting to rinse off his inflatable and it suddenly went “bang” and all the air blew out. I noticed was that there is no inherent bouncy after the blow out.
The water around here has the potential for gators, snakes, or sharks. I am not sure I would feel comfortable paddling something that could so quickly lose its ability to keep me out of the water. :)
 
The water around here has the potential for gators, snakes, or sharks. I am not sure I would feel comfortable paddling something that could so quickly lose its ability to keep me out of the water. :)

 
Have you ever tried to get back into a canoe after a capsize? :)

Alan
HA, exactly. That is the primary concern in my other post looking for a lightweight canoe as stable as my Old Town Camper. This is not the place to be paddling an unstable canoe. :)
 
Hence an alternative name for a tandem canoe is a "divorce boat".
Tandem anything, actually...
....the point is, that like any subject you have to get them interested and display what you can really do in a canoe, just telling them isn't enough...
I keep hoping that someday I will happen into such an audience that will actually notice something special going on, pay attention, and show some interest. So far, I can only think of one individual that actually even paid any attention.

HA, exactly. That is the primary concern in my other post looking for a lightweight canoe as stable as my Old Town Camper. This is not the place to be paddling an unstable canoe. :)
"There are no unstable canoes, just unstable paddlers".

Yeah, I know that's an exaggeration. But it's generally true.
 
I think availability of entry level canoes is a barrier, particularly solo canoes, though that may vary by your location I suppose. I also think there is a general expectation of using a single blade paddle with a canoe, and that can be a turn-off for an entry level paddler. I started off in a pack canoe with a double blade, and I think that's what I needed to help ease the transition.
I think @Neophyte makes a good point about a lack of entry level canoes. I give Old Town some credit for making a good effort with the Next, and I think it would be smart for the other big makers to get into that game. I don't count Coleman or Pelican as entry level in a way that would inspire new canoeists.
The price of new quality canoes can seem ridiculous to many people, mainly because they don't understand what goes into building a canoe and aren't taking into account the reality of inflation. And I think the fact that a quality canoe can last for many decades is lost in the initial price shock. But if you factor in the amortization principle, even a lightweight high-end canoe might cost you no more than $300 and often less than $200 per year if you keep it for 10 to 20 years and sell it as used. That's very reasonable rent for a fine canoe.

But the lure of an inexpensive, but ultimately disposal boat is tough to overcome. There are opportunities, though, for people to buy more affordable used canoes through dealers such as Noel Canoe and from brick and mortar dealers that maintain an inventory of used canoes. For about the same or a bit more cost than a new plastic kayak or plastic canoe you can get a nice used composite canoe. Maybe it's on us to get those unused canoes sitting in storage back out into the marketplace. :)
 
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Maybe it's on us to get those unused canoes sitting in storage back out into the marketplace
None of my canoes are unused. Some just get a lot of rest. ;)

I find myself wondering if part of the problem is all of us thinking that an entry level canoe should be a tandem. I don't think that's a given, but it seems to be the common assumption. I think it would be interesting to know how many Nexts OT has sold. They sure don't show up on the used market often (here, anyway).
 
I find myself wondering if part of the problem is all of us thinking that an entry level canoe should be a tandem. I don't think that's a given, but it seems to be the common assumption.
I think the idea of promoting solo canoes to new canoeists is a good one. Solo canoeing is more intuitive, and I think easier than tandem and a double-blade can make it easier as well as faster to learn to paddle single-blade, as Neophyte said. And I've seen kids get into a lively solo canoe with a single-blade paddle and take right to it.
 
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People might think of canoeing as a tandem affair, while in a kayak you are on your own. They may not be aware of solo canoes and like the idea of being independent.
I had no idea solo canoes were even a thing when I started looking at upgrading my kayak. I forget how I stumbled across the concept, but it was exactly what I didn't know I was looking for. I so rarely see solo canoes around here that I could list what I've seen.

I find myself wondering if part of the problem is all of us thinking that an entry level canoe should be a tandem. I don't think that's a given, but it seems to be the common assumption. I think it would be interesting to know how many Nexts OT has sold. They sure don't show up on the used market often (here, anyway).
I don't see a lot of canoes around here in general, but I do see an OT Next occasionally when I'm on the Delaware River. But nothing on the used market. It looks like Old Town doesn't make the Next anymore, which is too bad. They do have a Discovery 119, a solo canoe that looks more entry level. But I feel like the Next is much more accessible for the beginning paddler who is canoe-curious.
 
None of my canoes are unused. Some just get a lot of rest. ;)

I find myself wondering if part of the problem is all of us thinking that an entry level canoe should be a tandem. I don't think that's a given, but it seems to be the common assumption. I think it would be interesting to know how many Nexts OT has sold. They sure don't show up on the used market often (here, anyway).
entry- level tandems are made by virtually every manufacturer, and found in almost every market. solos are more rare and have fewer companies making them, it's really just simple math- there being more tandems made, and there also being more competition in the market means lower prices and more availability
Plus there's the matter of versatility- younger buyers are often looking for a "do everything" boat that can be used solo, still works when they start into a relationship, and continues to function when a family comes their way. I find it's mostly older, more experienced paddlers who are in the market for a solo because they have grown kids who no longer trip with them, and they already have that original tandem for tripping with friends or spouses. I honestly only know of one younger paddler that bought a solo first, and he's a confirmed bachelor who never intends on settling down ...
 
entry- level tandems are made by virtually every manufacturer, and found in almost every market. solos are more rare and have fewer companies making them, it's really just simple math- there being more tandems made, and there also being more competition in the market means lower prices and more availability
Plus there's the matter of versatility- younger buyers are often looking for a "do everything" boat that can be used solo, still works when they start into a relationship, and continues to function when a family comes their way. I find it's mostly older, more experienced paddlers who are in the market for a solo because they have grown kids who no longer trip with them, and they already have that original tandem for tripping with friends or spouses. I honestly only know of one younger paddler that bought a solo first, and he's a confirmed bachelor who never intends on settling down ...
I get that. But without other considerations it doesn't make sense to me that this doesn't also apply to recreational kayaks. Tandem kayaks exist, yet I see whole families, each in their own kayak. I know not everyone can afford to buy even a Next for every kid, but we aren't all that limited. In fact, I would guess that there are plenty of families that could afford at least one solo canoe and rec kayaks for spouse and kids instead.

I still think it's more about assumptions. When I got into canoeing, it was specifically to have an activity I could share with my wife. I assumed a tandem canoe was what I needed. We still have a very nice Malecite, but we rarely use it. It wasn't long before she wanted something to paddle on her own, so we found what most of us here would call a lightweight decked solo canoe. That boat is now a family favorite, and it freed me up to get into my own solos - which was almost a necessity for me to be able to keep up with her, especially in wind.

I will admit that had I not started in tandems, I might not have ever got into poling, but that's a diversion into another topic.

Had I been more informed, I think I would have gone for solo boats right from the start. In fact - here's a quote from a post I made years ago on another forum, shortly after I acquired my first solo canoe (a Dagger Sojourn)...
...had I known how much more I would enjoy paddling a solo canoe (as opposed to soloing a tandem with a paddle), I might have been more willing to pay the price on some canoes I passed on earlier.

BTW, it was reading posts on here and Pnet that convinced me to try a solo canoe. Never once did I see any mainstream media suggestion, manufacturer advertising, or hear anything from the local paddle shops that would have pointed me in that direction.

I can tell you that my skill with a paddle did not bloom until I began actively paddling solo (which the poling practice delayed very much), and it didn't really take off until I got into a decent solo canoe. That might have been different if I had gotten formal training, but that's another thing that has been non-existent in my area for a long time. If not for the Internet, I doubt that I would have ever progressed beyond flailing away in a tandem canoe. So much helpful information now exists, but I have seen no attempt by the industry to bring it to the public's attention. I see this as another industry failure.

But I'm willing to admit that I am completely out of the mainstream, and not at all representative of any potential market, so....
 
If the right solo canoe was offered to a potential canoe paddler, something like a sport canoe that instilled confidence and yet was decently nimble, I think there'd be a lot more canoeists out there. An entry-level canoe wouldn't be ultra-light but neither would it scare you off when you looked at the price tag.
 
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