When someone referrers to a canoe made of the tuff stuff, what is it their saying? poly plastic, fiberglass, or what?
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Could refer to Nova Craft's TuffStuff (Royalex substitute).
Tuff Stuff is Nova Craft's new composite. IIRC, it is comprised at least partly of basalt fibers.
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Given that sellers will call Royalex fiberglass, or describe a 16 foot canoe as 19 feet, it could be anything.
Some of MRC’s poly boats were billed as “Triple Tough”. Wenonah has Tuf-weave. I think Hellman had “Tuff” in the name of some composite layup.
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I don't think Mad river ever used Tuff Stuff since it is a Nova Craft product, she must have meant TT for Triple Tuff... Nad that stuff is not the same at all....
As for repairs of a crack, drill a small hole he the end of the crack, grind from both side in a "V" shape, to expose the foam, then acetone to clean the work, then "torch" it with a propane torch to oxidize it (just passing the flame over top, barely touching the area) and then Gflex epoxy for plastic boat, fill in the area inside and out.
As for repairs of a crack, drill a small hole he the end of the crack, grind from both side in a "V" shape, to expose the foam, then acetone to clean the work, then "torch" it with a propane torch to oxidize it (just passing the flame over top, barely touching the area) and then Gflex epoxy for plastic boat, fill in the area inside and out.
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G/flex surface prep comparison chart
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/g-flex-epoxy-adhesion-data
West System suggests alcohol wipe and flame treatment.
Acetone and an exposed foam core scares me.
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/g-flex-epoxy-adhesion-data
West System suggests alcohol wipe and flame treatment.
Acetone and an exposed foam core scares me.
Canotrouge knows what he is talking about.
TuffStuff is a proprietary name used by Nova Craft canoe to describe what is basically just a different layup schedule for a composite canoe in which Innegra H polypropylene/basalt hybrid cloth has been substituted for aramid. It has nothing to do with any Mad River canoe.
The MRC Teton is a rotomolded, triple-layer polyethylene canoe. Although the construction method is common to many manufacturers, every maker has to come up with their own cute name for it such as Triple Tough for MRC, Polylink-3 or Crosslink -3 for Old Town, and three-phase rotomold by Wenonah. Polyethylene is a polyolefin plastic and conventional epoxies and adhesives bond poorly to it. West System's G Flex epoxy will bond reasonably well to polyethylene and can be used to repair cracks and wet out fiberglass and other types of cloth, but only if you pretreat the surface by flame oxidizing it as described by Canotrouge. If you don't do the flame oxidation the bond will be very poor and you will waste your time and money.
TuffStuff is a proprietary name used by Nova Craft canoe to describe what is basically just a different layup schedule for a composite canoe in which Innegra H polypropylene/basalt hybrid cloth has been substituted for aramid. It has nothing to do with any Mad River canoe.
The MRC Teton is a rotomolded, triple-layer polyethylene canoe. Although the construction method is common to many manufacturers, every maker has to come up with their own cute name for it such as Triple Tough for MRC, Polylink-3 or Crosslink -3 for Old Town, and three-phase rotomold by Wenonah. Polyethylene is a polyolefin plastic and conventional epoxies and adhesives bond poorly to it. West System's G Flex epoxy will bond reasonably well to polyethylene and can be used to repair cracks and wet out fiberglass and other types of cloth, but only if you pretreat the surface by flame oxidizing it as described by Canotrouge. If you don't do the flame oxidation the bond will be very poor and you will waste your time and money.
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Yes indeed... I'm really careful, never had a problem, but alcohol is probably a lot safer...
Got it!, Thanks for the help.
I have a MRC Triple Tuff canoe and it is not Royalex. It's heavy and strong. That canoe is 86+ pounds and is not fun to portage.
Yeah! my M.R. Teton isn't light either, but I don't portage it, nor do I have any white water to worry about. I use it on slow moving rivers and the marshes on the east coast sounds. We have thousands of miles of slow water here, in North Carolina and the only thing I really have to look out for, is bad weather, motor boats, and mosquitos! LOL.
