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Brown Tract Portage to Lower Locks

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I'm doing two NFCT work weekends this summer and thought I'd trip between them. Just about 60 miles, Sunday noon till Friday late afternoon. Not many portages (compared to Quetico and BWCAW). Does this stretch seem that strenuous? I'm not speed demon but thought I could do 12 miles a day, about what I did in canoe country which included layover days. Seems from maps and other sources and easy stretch.
 
Bill, not sure exactly what you are after. I believe you are doing a segment along the Cannonball-90 original 90 mile route. I have a spread sheet listing Cannonball distances and times (at selected paddle and carrry speeds) between siignificant points on that route. The beginning of the Brown's Tract portage from take-out at 8th lake is 17 miles from Old Forge. The Lower locks are at mile 74 from Old Forge. you will have to estimate your own paddle and carry speed and Raquette River current to make your timing estimates. Don't forget that the carry from Forked campground to Long Lake is 3.7 miles, but it is along a road. Use Wheels. Here is a portion of my spreadsheet, minus the timing calculations. (The entire 90 miler should take something less than 19-20 hours, midnight start to before sunset finish in June)

Updated to include Lower Lock
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The NFCT map on their site shows long portage to Long Lake is now 3 portages and paddle between. Roughly half portage, half paddle.

Have wheels. Based on the NFCT maps only one portage not wherlable.

I figured trip was 60 miles.

Asking if you think an intermediate paddler can do this segment in 5 days.
 
The NFCT map on their site shows long portage to Long Lake is now 3 portages and paddle between. Roughly half portage, half paddle.
On paper that is technically correct. i tried breaking the portage to LL like that once. And only once. And I was not even in any 20 hour Cannonball hurry at the time, just on a leisurely week long camping trip to Plattsburgh with a Hornbeck before the NFCT even formally existed. I hated it and swore I would never do that series of portage/paddles from Forked to LL again.

Do it that way if you wish, you can choose to paddle amongst the multiple segments of easy open paddling and then the sudden encounters of rock gardens and look for where to exit and enter the muddy bank over and over again, climbing up the slope toward the road to go around rocky shallow segments, wasting far more time and effort with banging, and scratching of canoe skin than it is ever worth attempting.

I've paddled the Cannonball 13 times and after that one time to Plattsburgh, I would never consider breaking up the simple long easy road carry to LL ever again.

Have wheels. Based on the NFCT maps only one portage not wherlable.
That would be the first 80% of the Raquette Falls Carry where you go faster by hand carrying wheels than wheeling them.

You got the distance approximately correct. Five days should be more than doable.
My trip to Plattsburgh was in a 10.5' Hornbeck, single tripping carries with all gear in a Knupac, not paddling a racing pace by any means. Full distance on a diagonal across the Adirondacks, from 20 miles west of the blue line to Pburgh was 185 miles total, including 62 accumulated miles of carries on a hot buggy dry low water July week of exactly 7 days door to door (my home to daughter's home across the big lake to near the ferry launch)
 
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It is a nice stretch. But two longer portages for sure. The trip down long lake could be a express ride with the wind at you're tail. Also the saranacs( if the wind is from the west). I think 5 days will give you plenty of time to enjoy this trip. As a possible bonus there are restaurants/ bars on both raquett and long lake for extra calories or a break. Both also have reasonable rate rooms. Thank you for your time volunteering with the nfct. Hope it works out sounds like a good time.
 
Thank you. It seemed doable but read on NFCT facebook that someone doing whole trail took 5 days Browns Tract to Middle Saranac - and seemed a lot younger than me.
 
Thank you. It seemed doable but read on NFCT facebook that someone doing whole trail took 5 days Browns Tract to Middle Saranac - and seemed a lot younger than me.
Some campers like to dally in camp and move slowly. I know that young first time boy scouts with no canoeing experience (one day intro) would commonly take this route, beginning at 8th Lake as a five day paddle/camping trek Monday pm to Friday AM. So I have no doubt that a reasonably accomplished caneist could easily do it. Single trip if you can, with wheels.
 
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Unrelated but connected to the conversation - is it really almost a mile carry between 7th and 8th lakes? Maybe it's just that (at least when I've done it) you're going through the campground, but it seems so much shorter a portage!
 
Unrelated but connected to the conversation - is it really almost a mile carry between 7th and 8th lakes? Maybe it's just that (at least when I've done it) you're going through the campground, but it seems so much shorter a portage!
It is along a paved road through the campground. So a race run by physically carrying a canoe, or with wheels goes fast. Less than half way through Day1 of the 90 miler, while you are relatively fresh with cheering fans along the way as you pass by. Look at the map. it is indeed 0.91 mile. Takes about 25 minutes to traverse either by running and carrying or with wheels. Stops at your choice of multiple bathroom facilities along the way my make your time longer.

I will bet you do not say the same about the much more difficult Raquette Falls carry, which is only a little further.
 
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