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  1. Benson Gray

    What are you reading?

    That cover image was very popular. Racine used a similar version for their catalog as shown below. Benson
  2. Benson Gray

    Rollin Thurlow and Jerry Stelmok on television

    She picked the 15-foot-long Old Town Trapper model in AA grade (mahogany) with half ribs, outside stems, and traditional filler. Jerry usually doesn't allow Old Town canoes to be built in a class but has made an exception in this case. Benson
  3. Benson Gray

    Rollin Thurlow and Jerry Stelmok on television

    Yes, they are scheduled to give a talk titled "100 Years of Canoe Building" on Thursday evening. The link below has the full presentation schedule. I asked Rollin about retirement several years ago when I dropped off my Indian Old Town canoe for restoration. His response was "I've thought...
  4. Benson Gray

    Rollin Thurlow and Jerry Stelmok on television

    The link below has Rollin and Jerry on television this evening. Their segment is from about 1:00 to 7:30. Benson https://www.newscentermaine.com/video/news/local/207/207-june-12-2025/97-41f6e6c0-356d-4079-bef3-368b6b4ff482
  5. Benson Gray

    Hornbeck Guideboat?

    A typical guideboat is usually larger and more stable than most canoes. However, there are a huge variety of both guideboat and canoe designs so any general comparison is limited. There is also the question of how the oarlocks are mounted. The best leverage requires placing the oarlocks a few...
  6. Benson Gray

    Phantom Posts

    The 2012 link is below. Benson https://web.archive.org/web/20120419013017/http://www.canoetripping.net/blog1/
  7. Benson Gray

    Hornbeck Guideboat?

    Yes, but it is much less efficient. The usual solution is a good, wide angle mirror. Benson
  8. Benson Gray

    Phantom Posts

    The Bing dates can't be trusted. 2012 is probably when Bing first indexed this forum. The oldest record of this site in the Wayback Machine archive is from April 19th, 2012. I just used Bing to search for my posts in this and the WCHA forum. None of the Bing dates were accurate. Some were...
  9. Benson Gray

    Phantom Posts

    That post is available in the link below as message number three in that thread. It may have been moved some time after the Bing search robot indexed the forum. The local search tool in this forum will usually give better results. Good luck, Benson...
  10. Benson Gray

    Converting Penobscot 16 into a solo...

    I suspect that they don't but it will easy enough to remove them as a test and see. Good luck, Benson
  11. Benson Gray

    For Sale: Old Town wood "Guide" canoe - Massachusetts

    The information at the link below and similar canoes at https://www.woodencanoe.org/classifieds may help you value it. I would like to see some pictures. Good luck with the sale, Benson https://forums.wcha.org/threads/how-much-is-my-old-wooden-canoe-worth.57/
  12. Benson Gray

    Adirondack Freestyle Canoe Symposium July 17-20, 2025

    This is happening in conjunction with the Annual Assembly of the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association. The link below has more details. Benson https://www.woodencanoe.org/2025-assembly
  13. Benson Gray

    Side flotation: How it helps emptying water and assisting re-entry

    A slightly related topic is that Old Town and other canoe builders have promoted the benefits of sponsons for a long time. The page below from their 1947 catalog shows that you can still sail a canoe with sponsons even if it is full of water. The link below has more about this canoe which is...
  14. Benson Gray

    Other than the USA and Canada, what country has the most open canoes?

    Yes, but this is from a sample that has less than three percent of the total so it could be a statistical anomaly. The sampling technique was not totally random either. Crowd sourced projects have their limitations. Benson
  15. Benson Gray

    Other than the USA and Canada, what country has the most open canoes?

    The Old Town Canoe Company Build Record Archive Project described at https://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ is another data source. That database has a total 14,276 Old Towns that were shipped between 1905 and 1980 which includes some plastic canoes. The number of destinations outside...
  16. Benson Gray

    Other than the USA and Canada, what country has the most open canoes?

    I agree with Robin. The Wooden Canoe Heritage Association's historical membership totals show the following order: U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, Japan, and a broad variety of others with only one or two members including Australia, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden, and...
  17. Benson Gray

    So, what old item do you still use?

    I have a canoe from 1901 that I use occasionally. Another one from circa 1904 is shorter and lighter so it gets used more often. They both work fine. The links below have more details. Benson https://forums.wcha.org/threads/a-canoe-from-the-indian-old-town-canoe-company.11487/...
  18. Benson Gray

    Skegs on canoes?

    This thread made me curious about the history of asymmetric hull designs in small boats. I didn't find an authoritative source but the list of Struer's discontinued models at the link below offers some perspective. They introduced two new K1 models in 1960, a symmetric Rapido and an asymmetric...
  19. Benson Gray

    Skegs on canoes?

    True, they didn't have CAD or modern materials. They did have a few thousand years to test and optimize the elementary forms. Most modern designs below the water line are simply refinements of basic shapes that were roughed out a long time ago. Rudders have been added to sailing canoes since...
  20. Benson Gray

    Seeking historical examples of women's canoe expeditions

    Sacagawea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacagawea Cornelia Thurza Crosby a.k.a. “Fly Rod Crosby.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_Rod_Crosby
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