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Regarding the Blackwater vs Magic, I did a fair number of hour-long, gps-tracked paddles at all-day cruising speed and found the Blackwater to be two or three tenths faster than the Magic. Of course, the Magic has some rocker so handles differently. Again, I am a tripper, not a racer.

yknpdlr, you are in an enviable position with that stable of rides. Would love to see some photos of your Dillercraft in Textreme Light. How much does it weigh? Mine is 24# but stock it was 26#. Very robust build - it has stood up to all my abuse. The GRB XL al la southernkevlar & Bill's...

Sweet - what layup did you get? Will be interested to get your thoughts. I’ve always wanted to paddle a Shadow - would love to hear your comparison of the two. Was not interested in the Cruisers but the new 17.8 has my attention.

I am not a racer - too many competing interests! Just like going deep into the wilderness.

Hi Glenn! It's a Savager River Blackwater. Great as a fast tripper, though it has the expected handling of a boat that long with zero rocker. Will DM re: username. Cheers

Thanks for the welcome - I see I picked a username one character too long! My dog Cerberus is gonna have my leg off...

I am, as usual, late to the party on an interesting conversation. In fact, joined to chime in (I have been a long-time contributor on a couple of other tripping sites). Single-carrying is my thing, both on group trips and solo. Group trips it's simple: Each tandem has one large & heavy pack...