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  1. Benson Gray

    Phantom Posts

    The Bing dates can't be trusted. 2012 is probably when Bing first indexed this forum. The oldest record of this site in the Wayback Machine archive is from April 19th, 2012. I just used Bing to search for my posts in this and the WCHA forum. None of the Bing dates were accurate. Some were...
  2. Benson Gray

    Phantom Posts

    That post is available in the link below as message number three in that thread. It may have been moved some time after the Bing search robot indexed the forum. The local search tool in this forum will usually give better results. Good luck, Benson...
  3. Benson Gray

    Converting Penobscot 16 into a solo...

    I suspect that they don't but it will easy enough to remove them as a test and see. Good luck, Benson
  4. Benson Gray

    For Sale: Old Town wood "Guide" canoe - Massachusetts

    The information at the link below and similar canoes at https://www.woodencanoe.org/classifieds may help you value it. I would like to see some pictures. Good luck with the sale, Benson https://forums.wcha.org/threads/how-much-is-my-old-wooden-canoe-worth.57/
  5. Benson Gray

    Adirondack Freestyle Canoe Symposium July 17-20, 2025

    This is happening in conjunction with the Annual Assembly of the Wooden Canoe Heritage Association. The link below has more details. Benson https://www.woodencanoe.org/2025-assembly
  6. Benson Gray

    Side flotation: How it helps emptying water and assisting re-entry

    A slightly related topic is that Old Town and other canoe builders have promoted the benefits of sponsons for a long time. The page below from their 1947 catalog shows that you can still sail a canoe with sponsons even if it is full of water. The link below has more about this canoe which is...
  7. Benson Gray

    Other than the USA and Canada, what country has the most open canoes?

    Yes, but this is from a sample that has less than three percent of the total so it could be a statistical anomaly. The sampling technique was not totally random either. Crowd sourced projects have their limitations. Benson
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    Other than the USA and Canada, what country has the most open canoes?

    The Old Town Canoe Company Build Record Archive Project described at https://www.wcha.org/catalogs/old-town/records/ is another data source. That database has a total 14,276 Old Towns that were shipped between 1905 and 1980 which includes some plastic canoes. The number of destinations outside...
  9. Benson Gray

    Other than the USA and Canada, what country has the most open canoes?

    I agree with Robin. The Wooden Canoe Heritage Association's historical membership totals show the following order: U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, Japan, and a broad variety of others with only one or two members including Australia, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden, and...
  10. Benson Gray

    So, what old item do you still use?

    I have a canoe from 1901 that I use occasionally. Another one from circa 1904 is shorter and lighter so it gets used more often. They both work fine. The links below have more details. Benson https://forums.wcha.org/threads/a-canoe-from-the-indian-old-town-canoe-company.11487/...
  11. Benson Gray

    Skegs on canoes?

    This thread made me curious about the history of asymmetric hull designs in small boats. I didn't find an authoritative source but the list of Struer's discontinued models at the link below offers some perspective. They introduced two new K1 models in 1960, a symmetric Rapido and an asymmetric...
  12. Benson Gray

    Skegs on canoes?

    True, they didn't have CAD or modern materials. They did have a few thousand years to test and optimize the elementary forms. Most modern designs below the water line are simply refinements of basic shapes that were roughed out a long time ago. Rudders have been added to sailing canoes since...
  13. Benson Gray

    Seeking historical examples of women's canoe expeditions

    Sacagawea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacagawea Cornelia Thurza Crosby a.k.a. “Fly Rod Crosby.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_Rod_Crosby
  14. Benson Gray

    2025 Maine Canoe Symposium (May 30-June 1) Registration Now Open

    "The Maine Canoe Symposium encourages participants of all ages to develop an understanding and appreciation of the diversity of North American canoeing heritage and to develop canoeing and related skills through educational workshops, presentations, and hands-on instruction." The symposium is...
  15. Benson Gray

    Video: Canoeing the Stream in the Sky

    Pub paddling is a great tradition in Britain that doesn't appear to have been replicated in North America. The video below has more details. Benson
  16. Benson Gray

    Video: Canoeing the Stream in the Sky

    I have paddled over the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct and the intimidation factor is huge. I'm not usually acrophobic but found myself wondering what the best reaction might be if it suddenly started to leak significantly. Llangollen in Wales is one of my favorite places to paddle. The canal and...
  17. Benson Gray

    Waltham on the Charles: A Canoeing Capital of the World in the Early 1900s

    Yes, portaging is usually a challenge with any courting canoe. These were designed to be used at a canoe club where there were always a few dock boys available to help move them around. Good luck with the domestic discussion. I agree that it will go best if you bring the topic up when she is...
  18. Benson Gray

    Waltham on the Charles: A Canoeing Capital of the World in the Early 1900s

    Yes, every good canoe collection should have at least one courting canoe. See the image and link below for two of mine. Arguably, almost any canoe can be used for courting. Benson https://forums.wcha.org/threads/aa-grade-old-town-molitor-model-in-original-condition-from-1921.12325/
  19. Benson Gray

    Waltham on the Charles: A Canoeing Capital of the World in the Early 1900s

    This will not be streamed but they are planning to record it. I will post the link once it is available. The WCHA's YouTube channel at the link below has some similar presentations. Let me know if you need anything else, Benson https://www.youtube.com/@woodencanoeheritageassocia587/videos
  20. Benson Gray

    Waltham on the Charles: A Canoeing Capital of the World in the Early 1900s

    A presentation about "Waltham on the Charles: A Canoeing Capital of the World in the Early 1900s" will be on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 from 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM at the Charles River Museum of Industry and Innovation,154 Moody St., Waltham, MA, 02453. See the link below for more details. Benson...
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