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That appears to be the bow depth, these are the current specs on the MNII: DIMENSIONS Length 18' 6" (563.88cm) Gunwale Width 33.5" (85.09cm) Maximum Width 35" (88.9cm) Waterline Width 33.5" (85.09cm) Stern Depth 17" (43.18cm) Center Depth 13.5" (34.29cm) Bow...

Thanks Mike, that's consistent with what I got from Mad River when I called today. At the time this one was made, they were only available in Kevlar and weighed 60lbs This one has had the wooden gunwales and thwarts replaced with aluminum, so I'm guessing it's a couple pounds less than that...

Thanks Mark. I did contact several other outfitters in the area and they mostly ranged from $1550-$1800, albeit for newer boats than this one, so that sounds about right.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I wish it were closer to take a look in person. An older Mad River Lamoille in Kevlar just popped up this morning and it's much closer to me. It looks to be in nice shape and they only want $500 for it. Not as light as the MNII, but still under 60lbs and the...

I'm considering making a long drive up to MN to buy a boat. I was wondering if anyone could give me their opinion on the apparent condition and if there is anything I should look out for. This particular boat is 6 years old and does not have any repairs, but it does have significant wear...

I think my 15'6" Journeys weigh 83lbs, so it's ultra light to me! I would love to build my own, but I don't think it's something realistic for me to undertake at this time in my life. I have spent a good deal of time living vicariously through the build threads here. Luckily I'm in no hurry...

Well I had a look today, unfortunately this one was a pretty poor example. He was willing to go down to $600, but it's just too ugly, runs everywhere in the urethane and some pretty sloppy woodwork. Holy crap was it light though.

Oddly enough, that is the one. However, it's not located in MN. Central Wisco is a bit of a CL dead zone, so he's probably just cross posting there. I would like something on the lighter end, so probably not looking at royalex. I've been watching and just haven't seen anything in kevlar come...

I'm looking at buying one secondhand, asking $700 in barely used condition. I would like it for lake tripping, I have a pair of poly Mad River Journey 156's for river trips. I did call UBB to ask about construction, and they're using ballistic nylon skin from skinboats.com and a two part...

I'm looking at a used one later today, does anyone know anything about them, or SOF canoes in general? I'm looking for something light enough to port, as our current boats are of the 80lbs poly variety and I'd like to open up my options for trips in the coming years. I'm on a budget, but I...

Correct, good luck!

I've only been the one time, and it wasn't busy. I was on the water by about 9am on a Monday morning and had no trouble finding a site. The only trouble was paddling to them through the wing :)

Went up to the TFF this Monday to Wednesday with my 7 year old daughter, first canoe trip for both of us. The wind was crazy for the first two days and we only went a couple miles in, Wednesday was beautiful so we had a bit more of a paddle before heading out. We camped at R38 the first night...

Hi Hogan, definitely not too late! I've been away from the internet for about a week canoeing and camping in Iowa.

Hello, I'm considering a trip to the Turtle Flambeau this year and wondering if anyone has any experience to share. Best launch, campsites, time of year, etc. Thinking of launching at Murray's Landing and sticking to the quiet zone if possible. The biggest thing that worries me is going at a...

Hello everyone! I've done a bit of canoeing over the years starting with summer camp at about 8 years old. We got our first canoe this year and have taken several river trips. My kids are 4 and 6 years old, so we have been trying to stick to slow and easy rivers. I'm really interested in...