Pat Moore Andante

[DrewS]

I have heard tell of the Pat Moore Andante. I have talked to people that have demoed it with Pat but have never been able to find one in the flesh. I was beginning to think that Pat made one demo and it no longer existed. Discussing the spec sheet and write up by Pat Moore with Dave Curtis we both think the Andante was Pat’s design to be Ladybug ish. A more maneuverable and playful canoe. I have 9 Pat Moore molds and was unsure if the andante was one of them. When recently a Pat Moore Andante popped up on the Freestyle canoe facebook page for sale I had to have it. (Thanks Joe Geronimo and Marty Cuff for helping with transportation). Upon looking at the canoe I definitely have the mold. I will have it at the WPASCR for people to paddle. Does anyone else have any info on the Pat Moore Andante? Thanks Dustin

I had one shipped up from Hilton Head along with 2 of his new paddle designs . It was for a woman (a Dr Joyce can't remember her last name) she liked paddling my Reverie 2 and was a small stature woman...
Oh I also had some of those mold too at one time, as Pat didn't want to take them down to Hilton Head but he sent someone for them after I said I wasn't moving to help run his shop.
There's a Magnum mold still floating around in the Madison area, as I left it there when I moved from a divorce.
The video on paddling technique with Pat in the Grumman with shovel was filmed at my place as I was living on Lake Waubesa.

 

[DrewS]

The Andante was not designed yet at time of those photos...

That's probably a Proem in photo

 

[Glenn MacGrady]

Thanks for that interesting history, @DrewS.

 

[gumpus]

The video on paddling technique with Pat in the Grumman with shovel was filmed at my place as I was living on Lake Waubesa.

Can this video be found somewhere on the Internet? I have a copy that I haven't viewed in decades and don't remember anything about it but it just seems like a piece of history worth sharing.

Regarding "new paddle designs" I'd be very curious to hear more about paddles.

 

[tketcham]

Regarding "new paddle designs" I'd be very curious to hear more about paddles.

I wish I had the motivation to try building carbon paddle blades and grips to come up with my ideal "functional freestyle" paddle. I'd love to experiment with different blade shapes and grip styles. I have several paddles that I enjoy using but none of them are what I'd consider a one-paddle quiver.

 

[gumpus]

I wish I had the motivation to start experimenting with carbon paddle blades and grips to come up with my ideal "functional freestyle" paddle. I'd love to try different blade shapes and grip styles. I have several paddles that I enjoy using but none of them are what I'd consider a one-paddle quiver.

You should come visit. I can accommodate all of your curiosities. 10 day forecast for SW MI looks fine.

1st Pic shows the 5 cues that followed me home at various times in years past. They all have stories. Wood one originally made for Steve Matthews in 1985. Maybe Drew knows him? Got it from TheBob's estate...the only time Bob let stuff go.

The composite cues are quite special and worth experiencing. Knife-edge. Kind of a squared off shaft that really gives you a clear sense of blade angle. Great quiet water sport canoeing paddles.

My absolute favorite is the Black Bart Troublemaker straight shaft in the center of 2nd Pic because it does everything well from kneel and switch cruising to relaxing 100% in-water recoveries. Short/fat blade great for rivers and great for swing weight minimization ("handiness") yet plenty powerful with ideal for me blade size. Marc's dog paddles have a somewhat similar shape and also suit my preferences. I also absolutely love the GRB 6 degree and that's what I always take along with Troublemaker. Both are exceptionally quiet paddles...quiet entry. Paddle on right is a discontinued fully symmetric ZRE that's very nice IMO. New owner said he'd consider making them again but nothing happened.

 

[tketcham]

My absolute favorite is the Black Bart Troublemaker straight shaft in the center of 2nd Pic because it does everything well from kneel and switch cruising to relaxing 100% in-water recoveries.

That's the paddle that caught my eye. It has a blade shape and surface area that I'm looking for but I'd prefer to have the grip that's on the middle Cue. I like having a tapered grip like that because it works well for palm rolls but is still comfortable while paddling under power. When I tried a Cue this spring I liked the nice thin edge and the way it moves through the water, but I prefer less blade surface area. At least for how I paddle most of the time.

Nice quiver of canoe paddles you got there.

 

[NoelCanoeDad]

I had one shipped up from Hilton Head along with 2 of his new paddle designs . It was for a woman (a Dr Joyce can't remember her last name) she liked paddling my Reverie 2 and was a small stature woman...
Oh I also had some of those mold too at one time, as Pat didn't want to take them down to Hilton Head but he sent someone for them after I said I wasn't moving to help run his shop.
There's a Magnum mold still floating around in the Madison area, as I left it there when I moved from a divorce.
The video on paddling technique with Pat in the Grumman with shovel was filmed at my place as I was living on Lake Waubesa.

Hello, Thanks for the info. Please tell me more about the Magnum? Length, width, solo tandem any specs would be interesting. Thanks

 

[gumpus]

That's the paddle that caught my eye. It has a blade shape and surface area that I'm looking for but I'd prefer to have the grip that's on the middle Cue. I like having a tapered grip like that because it works well for palm rolls but is still comfortable while paddling under power. When I tried a Cue this spring I liked the nice thin edge and the way it moves through the water, but I prefer less blade surface area. At least for how I paddle most of the time.

Nice quiver of canoe paddles you got there.

I think there were at least 3 blade sizes on cues with the smallest being most rare. 2 of mine are Large and 3 are Medium. I rarely use the Large but wonder why guys like Tom MacKenzie and Dave Curtis favor big blades; I think they know how to use them and I don't. There are many different grips that I like; I'd like to hear Patrick talk about his grip design.

You might like the Werner Journey. Blade shape similar to a small cue and you can use it hard since it's replaceable.