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My wife and I are getting in Friday evening and will likely go straight to the show. I’m pretty terrible at planning things but I’d be up for breakfast or coffee before going on Saturday morning, or lunch or something Saturday. Or even just meeting up in the early afternoon Saturday at one of...

Not sure if it’s been discussed already and I missed it, or if it hasn’t been mentioned yet, but I was curious if there will be a forum member meetup at Canoecopia this year?

Guide is actually even heavier than that at 58 lbs. Echo is a bit shorter so loses some capacity there, but the big thing is the depth. I love the depth of the Guide. The Echo is still more shallow than I’d like. Helps on windy lakes, but I prefer the security of the added depth on rivers.

I agree, the pricing looks very good. I actually ended up calling them today just to ask a few questions and they were very accommodating. They said the duraflex was significantly tougher than the standard fiberglass for what it’s worth. They said the duraflex is built with many extra layers...

I had never been before this past Fall and it was a good time. It is pretty unstructured, some people paddle in a faster group, but most of the group leisurely paddles together. Although there were a few kayaks last time, most were in solo canoes. The North Fork of the White never makes...

There is now a Facebook group for this called Ozark Rendezvous Paddlers, if you are interested in attending I suggest joining for info/updates. An Ozark Rendezvous is held both Spring and Fall on different rivers. From the Facebook post by the admins for this upcoming Spring: “What to Expect...

Yeah, mostly Rutabaga with very few exceptions. Boats on the floor may or may not be Rutabaga inventory, but as noted they have an offsite warehouse with a ton of inventory for the show. So if you like a boat you see on the floor, you can go to the boat ordering area (semi circle set up with...

Yeah, I appreciate that their marketing is kind of tongue in cheek about it:

Well, found an interesting video of the 14’ Clipper, and in my area no less. Too bad the company they use doesn’t sell boats anymore. Windy conditions, technically a river but more like flat water in reality. Skip to the 4 minute mark for actual paddling.

Funny that Swift describes the prospector design that way since all of their prospectors are actually based off of other Chestnut designs. In this video Swift says their 15’ version is based off a Chestnut Bob Special, and the 16’ version is a combination of a Chestnut Cruiser and a Pal, and...

Facebook marketplace algorithms are weird and the search often doesn’t return things I know I’ve seen before, and then that same item will pop back up days later on its own as I’m scrolling, so I know it was there when I searched for it, it just didn’t show up for some reason. No clue why it’s...

Turns out it was only a half inch deeper, and the video was sooner than I thought:

I hope my posts on the Clipper in the other thread have not been offensive or combative, I appreciated your post and think it’s as good a candidate for “best” as any. I have had an eye on it for some time now as a “possible great river boat”, I’ve just struggled to find good info on it, and run...

My biggest concern with the Swift layup is the foam core and ribs, which are notably absent in all of the videos. Normally in the Swift videos it’s Bill hitting a flat sample of layup (minus foam core) on a flat granite surface, with a rubber mallet, like this one (at around the 3:30 mark)...

I don’t personally use them because they are harder to clean than the newer stainless bottles or nalgenes. I really like canteens, and think they are a much easier way to carry larger amounts of water. But the shape and only the one small opening is a lot harder to clean easily vs a newer...

Wow I missed a lot of responses- busy day at work today. True, but pedestals and thigh straps aren’t very common on non-playboats (just in general, I know there are exceptions). The 15” depth is a great feature of the boat IMO, but again not common on all-rounder type boats with less than 2”...

Do you know anyone who’s paddled one? Clippers simply don’t exist at all around my area, but the P14 seems like an odd case on paper. I know rocker in different manufacturers is not comparable, but I have read several places the clipper p14 “has a reputation as a good whitewater boat”, but I...

On the P15, Bill Swift told me about 2 months ago that it was one inch deeper than the P14 (so about 13.5”), had 2” of rocker vs the P14’s 1”, and was the same max width of 32”. He also then backtracked on the 2” of rocker and said he wasn’t 100% sure but that it was definitely more than the...

Yep, I agree with @Tryin’ and your assessment, now knowing the weight, the Polaris will be great for you. That’s about where I’m at with a kid or two and it feels very stable, and I agree the narrow stations will probably be a benefit at your size. I also recommend chatting with Northstar...

My Polaris is in IXP which is not common for this hull I think and I have wondered about the layup’s effect on the bottom shape, but mine is a much flatter bottom than I expected. Perhaps blacklite or starlite would be rounder? Stability is great for solo use, or solo with kids, and I have no...