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That's very nice. It's amazing what can be done with digital drawing, but I still enjoy using the old drawing tools.

We finally did that today. Our impression is that the difference in speed of the two on calm water is negligible. Moccasin accelerates quicker, but that's maybe due to the weight difference. Maybe it's my imagination, but it seems like the Moccasin has a slightly shallower draft when paddled...

Mass of the earth is increasing. I'm sure of it. ;)

Biggest issue for me right now is how much I'm going to have to pay when my truck is all done. 😬

Now it looks like I'll be lucky if it's still there in June. He just dropped the price to $1400. I don't even have a way to get it right now, since my truck is in the shop for some major work. If anyone else is thinking about this one, you probably better get after it.

I hate gyms, and I'm not especially excited about working out indoors. I gave up free weights a couple of years ago at 67, and switched to bands. Safer for me at home. When winter gets too wet or windy, I do regular sessions on the Nordic Track ski machine and the rower. Weight training for me...

Pretty much how I describe the Vertige. Think I'll try to talk someone else into this Impulse. I know a couple of guys who need a river runner. I'm happy with the Vertige, and should stick with it as long as I can lift it - or until one of Kaz's creations comes within range.

Thanks for all the replies. It's squarely in "anything that floats" territory - $150 with bags. That catches my attention, but so does "barge", as a negative.

Did anyone mention the Dragonfly 15 yet? 6" short by your standard, but looks like it's in the ballpark. Length: 15' Gunwale Width: 27" Maximum Width: 30" Waterline Width: 28" Centre Depth: 14" Bow Height: 21" Stern Height: 18.5 Bow Rocker: 2.5 Stern Rocker: 2 Optimum Load Range:180 - 360 lbs

Anyone know how they compare? I have the Vertige. There's an Impulse for sale near me. Looks to be a little less heavy. What else?

How would you compare its difficulty in a canoe with the Owyhee Rome to Res stretch?

I like the way Clipper gives weight limits. https://www.clippercanoes.com/collections/canoes-for-big-tall-paddlers/products/caribou-s Take note of the 10" freeboard weight listed for the Solitude, which by my reckoning is pretty accurate and I suspect would translate to the Caribou S...

I've been thinking a lot about that, and I think you may be right. Disappointing about that Prospector 15. I'm not sure what to think about that though. When I paddled the P14, I thought it had plenty of seat hight for kneeling. But I'm only 5' 11", so maybe I'm more of a fit.

I used to run trains along that Minam to the Grande Ronde stretch of the Wallowa. There was a red tandem canoe wrapped around the piling on the trestle across the confluence during that time. Must be a little tricky passing under there. I didn't have canoes then, nor did I have time to use one...

My advice on this regarding the choice between a solo or a tandem when buying new is always go for the solo canoe. My reason for that is because it's not hard to find a good lightweight tandem canoe at a good price on the used market, but used solo canoes are rare. I can't give a qualified...

Looks like a really fun hull!

We were on the river six days. Could have easily done it in five. We did some hiking halfway through a couple days. We didn't drag our feet much on the water, but didn't hurry. Played croquet in camp a few times.

I miss spoke. That was Clarno to Cottonwood. Don't know what I was thinking.

That makes sense. Sounds more like what I've heard about it from others.

We did the JD in April, before the spring runoff. I'd have to check my records, but it was definitely considered low flow. Crux of Clarno was reduced to an impenetrable rock garden with a narrow chute (little more than canoe width) next to a deep recirculating hole. I was loaded down in my MR...