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Man, that bites. I hope they caught it early.

Yeah, I should just shut up and paddle. :)

Woah - how did I not notice that? Definitely looks like it's been cobbed together some. Still not a deal breaker, but points for negotiation for sure. BTW, I now consider all aged cane seats to be suspect and expect to replace them immediately.

Thanks. You're making me feel better about missing the deal (out of ignorance) on the Blacklite Phoenix a few years ago. ;) I know it sounds crazy, but as I um...refine my paddling activity with age, I find myself wanting to pare down to just a couple of solos and a couple of tandems...

When I zoom in, that does look like closed cell foam in the stem. I don't see anything that looks like a deal killer, except possibly the staining that @sailsman63 mentioned. My bet is that the boat was left sitting or hanging on edge with water and debris collecting there, but I'd want to clear...

Thanks. Besides rocky rivers, under what conditions do you prefer the Phoenix? I'm guessing wind?

I'd also like to see a head to head comparison between that and the Phoenix.

I am also watching this thread closely. The DF 15 seems to be a real good candidate for me to take traveling to multiple waters on a single trip. I wish there was a Swift dealer closer out West though.

Also Clipper.

Look! Beautiful canoes! Peaceful wilderness! Shiney objects! Side effects? What side effects? Canoes! Paddling!

Rereading the thread, this caught my attention... I had forgotten about that benefit. It really does make a difference in a two man backpacking tent. Might have to give that another chance.

Change of plans already. Looks like I'm going to BWCA again in late June. Can't turn down my Nephew's invite.

Looks like that little one already knows what to do. :)

...and a return to the Magic Bus. :giggle:

Do you know where the Souhegan mold is?

Thanks. Ross has been on my bucket list.

I'm running into the same kind of thing with bicycle accessory companies. First hint is the too-good-to-be-true prices.

That's a road though, right? So a cart would be usable?

I am :sick: with envy.

Thanks, @ABT . Good to know. And it's looking like maybe I might be going through Belgrade in june. Hmmm...