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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    AFter the fibers are laid, the infusion disposables are next: Peel ply, infusion mesh, resin feed lines, vacuum lines, and finally the vacuum bag. Peel ply is a nylon cloth that allows everything else to release from the epoxy. The green stuff I'm using is silicone coated to release easier...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Yep- Once I open the resin line, I expect everything to wet out in 30-40 minutes. This is a cut section of my gunnel infusion test- both sides wet out fine. The gunnels are the last thing in the flow path though, so it will be slow to infuse. If there is a problem with the infusion not wetting...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Same materials, different application. Hopefully similar velocities :) Not sure exactly. I had a test piece measure real close to 1.1mm, but it used a thicker twill carbon. I have about $80 in the plug (waste), $450 in the mold (reusable), and $1100 in the infusion (materials and...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Lots of work completed this weekend: I laid up all the dry fiber. First, the full blanket of innegra/carbon hybrid. Then, a blanket of plain weave innegra. It was much more difficult than I would have thought to get everything to lay down flat without wrinkles. I used some 3M super77 spray...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    For all my test infusions I made a spreadsheet to keep track of fabric size/weight/sq in of core/resin usage and final part weight. Every test I would calculate the fiber volume ratio and tweak the spreadsheet to match better. So I have a pretty good estimation of how much epoxy to infuse. It...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    The carbon/Kevlar sleeve I’m using is 5.7oz cloth. The carbon sleeve is 7oz- so with my three layers, it’s near the same fiber weight as yours! Looking at total fiber weight was how I started estimating what layup schedule to use for my hull. Most commercial manufacturers and other builds...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    I assembled both halves of the mold and bolted them together. Then I constructed two slings on the strongback to hold the upright mold: these are simply 2x4's screwed to the strongback in a "v" fashion with an NRS strap slung between the tops of the v to cradle the mold. It is resting about...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Final mold prep here. On one of my test infusions, the very last part to infuse was the underside fo the gunnel, and there was even a small dry spot. I suspect that this was due to temperature: the bottom of the gunnel was the only place hiding from the infrared tube heater. It was the last part...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Problem: I had planned on wrapping the gunwales with a carbon/Kevlar braided sleeve. I like the combo of stiff carbon and resilient kevlar. Soller composites will dye the Kevlar for you and I ordered black. I just unwrapped it today and noticed that the kevlar has a distinct shade of green. I...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Thanks! that's good info. I have real limited experience with rudders- and never in a canoe. It's another one of the unknown variables with this project. I know already I don't like the weight of it. I plan to keep it out of the water for straight line/calm paddling and avoid the extra...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Ribs are cut and molded from the scrim/scored 1/4" divynicell. First, I located a rib at each mounting point for the foot pegs, then I worked out that I could evenly space remaining ribs fore/aft at about 27" apart. This ended up being a total of 8 each side. My test panel (rib edges chamfered...
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    Resin choice

    I like the plan of sanding it down (including the old patch) and coating with a layer or two of epoxy: it should bond to the existing fiberglass pretty well and give a new finish. It’s probably easier to apply/sand than a polyester Gelcoat. It won’t add any structural benefit: if you need...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Yes, the seat has a build thread of its own. You'll recognize the design as something else Alan came up with. A part of my mold making and infusion practice was making the seat and pedestal. It is meant to leave enough room on the sides to kneel for a bit when my bottom gets sore from sitting...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Yep, on my test I chamfered the edges at a 45deg angle. I’d like to go shallower but will have to work out how. My bandsaw table will only tilt to 45. Maybe the answer is a sanding block and some 60grit!
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    I still have to polish the mold, but I thought I'd get started on the gunwales. It's a milestone because it is the first time I am working on something that will be part of the final boat. The gunwale profile I successfully tested is an "L" shape that sits on the top edge of the mold. I...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    I went about dismantling the plug this evening. First, I unscrewed it from the strongback and laid it down in the grass. Then, with some help from a hammer, I was able to remove the forms and keep the shell mostly intact. It 's somewhat floppy, and it cracked and groaned when I sat in it, but...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Some good news, and some not as good news: Good news: I'm finished fiberglassing. And happy about it. Good news: The mold released just fine from the plug, and has a great shiny tool surface. Not as good news: Im going to have to do a little repair on the mold. I finished laminating the...
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    Which Kevlar fabric?

    Yes. The canoe has inherent stiffness in a bow/stern direction just because of its shape. The weaker axis is side-to-side: so things like ribs/core-floor construction try to stiffen this axis to prevent oil-canning. So make sure at least some fibers are oriented running side-to-side. So any...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    Yes, I wear it when spraying gelcoat or pva or anything. When laminating, though, I just wear safety glasses, but not the respirator. I do have exhaust fans running that can do 1.5 volume changes/minute. It keeps the air fresh enough. I had thought about that, but didn't want to invest in...
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    Multiday Adventure Race Canoe - Composite

    I finished one half of the mold and pulled the parting dam to get ready to gelcoat the other half. The packing tape withe the wax/pva treatment separated really well. The clay didn't damage the other side of the waxed plug, and came off cleanly. One of the unanswered questions I had was...
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