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Coronavirus Question

Back to the original question. I think going canoeing after exposure would be stupid. Pulmonary fibrosis results from this disease; once you have both a cough and a fever it's too late, permanent damage is done. You may recover with treatment, but lung loss of 50% is average. I don't know about y'all, but I need my lungs a lot. Best to get to a doctor is while you have a runny nose and sore throat.
 
Why wait to be exposed, I’m ready to head to the woods now. Preventative action.

Jim

I agree with Jim, might just be time to head to the woods. I started this thread as a tongue in cheek excuse to take another solo trip not intending to downplay or even have a serious discussion about COVID-19.
 
Canoeing after exposure
Camping after exposure
Highest mortality among my age group.
Rather die camping than at home.
Enroute to Death Valley
Though I can avoid people totally at home save grocery shopping ( and pick up service is available) life is more interesting on the road.

My neighbors( and they are some 2000 feet away) have declared they will stay in the house for weeks. They prefer to live in a bubble which would drive me nuts.
The trouble is no one knows if they have been exposed or not except the lucky few that have shown severe symptoms and have been able to be tested.

Mass gatherings of people have never been my thing but I do feel for those who live in the city. How can you not avoid exposure?
 
One comment in case it helps anyone. My Red Cross lifeguard manual says that one can create an effective disinfectant with one part bleach to nine parts water (10% bleach solution). So it's pretty easy to get a spray bottle and fill it with 10% bleach solution and wipe down touch points regularly with a rag...just as they always have rags and disinfectant spray for the equipment at the YMCA where I work part time. Today they asked lifeguards to wipe down touch points hourly and I expect that our YMCA may close soon...we had normal swim lessons this morning and then an empty pool this afternoon after many group activities were cancelled.
 
BUT
According to Clorox, undiluted household bleach has a shelf life of six months to one year from the date of manufacture, after which bleach degrades at a rate of 20% each year until totally degraded to salt and water, and a 1:10 bleach solution has a shelf life of 24 hours.
 
BUT
According to Clorox, undiluted household bleach has a shelf life of six months to one year from the date of manufacture, after which bleach degrades at a rate of 20% each year until totally degraded to salt and water, and a 1:10 bleach solution has a shelf life of 24 hours.
Well crud. Next you'll tell me that Everclear is no good for Jell-O shots.
 
According to Clorox, undiluted household bleach has a shelf life of six months to one year from the date of manufacture, after which bleach degrades at a rate of 20% each year until totally degraded to salt and water, and a 1:10 bleach solution has a shelf life of 24 hours.

In labs we used a stabilized bleach solution, like Iradecon. That commercially made stuff was not cheap

https://www.thomassci.com/Laboratory...leach?q=Bleach

I have no idea if stabilized bleach is available for home use. Might be worth a look.

I have been hearing from a lot of old colleagues that I rarely communicated with post retirement. One of my old bosses e-mailed me this last night.

I am pleased to understand that, according to CDC guidance as stated in 42 USG Part G, Sec 264, canoeing, kayaking and golfing all qualify as appropriate social distancing activities. I Golf as much as I can! Hopefully you spend all your free time on the water. Wait, unless things have changed, ALL your time is free!
 
The point of m post is don't mix up a large solution of bleach

Yep, that's how I interpreted your feedback and I do appreciate the education. I'm a bit disappointed in my Red Cross training since your point seems pretty basic. Even when I Googled the subject it was easy to find more recommendations for a 10% bleach solution but I had to dig deeper to find comments around how quickly the effectiveness can degrade.
 
The point of m post is don't mix up a large solution of bleach

Sweeper, I took that as you intended, and I know I’m not mixing up a new spray bottle of 10% bleach solution every couple of days. I doubt that the pump gaskets on most of the spray bottles we have around would withstand long exposure to bleach solution, even 70% isopropyl alcohol will kill most pumps.

Out of curiosity I searched for “stabilized bleach”. I didn’t look long or hard, but I didn’t find a source.

If I spray Everclear in the kitchen and bathrooms I could still gargle with it, or soak cherries in it for self-isolation party time.

Might have to add the liquor store to my next stock-up run.
 
Here we go Mike another item for your next stock-up run.

Sweeper, my butt cheeks are already tingling with anticipation.

We be good here. Always have a couple week pantry full of rice, beans, pasta, cans and assorted dry goods. Oatmeal, instant potatoes, sauces, cornmeal. Stuff in the way back that needs to finally get used. At least two week’s worth, and it’s not like we are “preppers” or other apocalyptic crazies, just the way we have always been.

A couple months ago, well before crap hit the fan, I bought a Mt. House Breakfast Bucket, with an eye towards provisioning spring and summer trips. We probably have a couple dozen unused freeze dried dinners in the blue barrels. Maybe I’ll finally eat another Beef Stew; we got a lot of that least favorite left.

Three weeks ago I could see some of this coming. “We’ll see what happens” and “It’ll go away like magic next month” is no way to prepare for a worldwide pandemic with a “novel” virus, where there is community spread, zero herd immunity across the entire planet, no vaccine for a year+ or no known anti-viral.

Countries need to put a halt to “wet markets” with live civet cats, pangolins, and bats butchered to order all under one messy roof. Plus frogs and turtles and birds any anything else wild-caught.

SARS likely originated from civet cats and bats, MERS was camels (and probably bats), SARS-CoV-2 (or Covid-19) was bats and possibly pangolins. WTF, pangolin scales are gonna keep your dick hard? Just buy some Viagra dammit.

Anyway, weeks ago I bought a larger than usual pack of toilet paper, and a extra half cart of non-perishables to store mice-secured in the blue barrels, well before the hoarding started.

The fully lettuce supply should last. I may yet lay in a couple just in case cases of Yuengling Chesterfield. We never have booze in the house, but maybe an emergency bottle of 151 for desperate times, so I can go out fat, drunk and stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoPq5AOCOA

I’m not yet self-isolating any more than usual. The most difficult part for me would be not heading out every two days to pick up newspapers and seeing my usual cashier buddies. This morning when I went to the denuded grocery for Sunday papers I pulled my hoodie down over my head, my shirt up over my nose and menaced the cashier with a gun-finger, muttering “Gimme all yer toilet paper”. She cracked up and the guy behind me in line about lost it. We all needed that.

I may hang on to the full newspaper recycling box for re-read necessity. I need the crinkle-crinkle fold-fold tactile feel of a newspaper. For reading, not for wiping, at least just yet. If the disinteresting Sports section fades to black what the heck are sportswriters going to cover, on-line Chess matches and Poker tournaments?

Not seeing my usual waitress friends at the diner every week or so would be a heartfelt loss. I really worry about those folks, living paycheck to paycheck or working for tips. I may throw caution to the wind and hit the diner this week. Maybe leave a virgin roll of toilet paper anchoring the tip.

my first corona virus joke hit me today. A nephew who is pretty much sports crazy posted "Day two without sports: Found a woman on my couch. She says she's my wife. Seems nice enough."

Ok Lance, I’m not a big sports fan (aside from College football), but that is so danged funny I shared it with the family.
 
Corona virus joke #2: "If you have Corona virus shouldn't you get Lyme disease too?"

Best regards to all,


Lance

EDIT: And my oldest son who has a pretty dry and often droll sense of humor states that he's thinking of using double stick tape to apply a Corona bottle cap to his arm and going to his Post Office job to tell coworkers that he's been vaccinnated.....
 
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