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    Non slip floor covering for our dog and for poling on Royalex?

    We have an active two year old dog who would likely be much calmer if she weren't sliding in the slick Royalex floor of our canoe and I'm toying with the idea of trying poling in the spring. Any thoughts on what would work without adding too much weight, absorbing water and still be fairly durable would be welcome. And maybe some sources, too?

    Thanks and best regards to all,


    Lance

    #2
    Minicel exercise floor mats, the puzzle piece 2’ x 2” sheets from WallyWorld or Harbor Freight.

    Six pieces for $10

    If you cut it to fit between tightly between the inwales you won’t need to adhere it in place for the dog.

    Poling, I dunno. I glued some in a canoe a poling friend borrowed for a year or so. He hated it.

    Dogs seem to appreciate it, as least as a non-slip paw surface.

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      #3
      Thanks.

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        #4
        Second the non slip
        workshop flooring
        Put some pieces together jam
        under gunwales after trimming to fit
        Paddlers in Freestyle also use it for kneeling pads that way
        There are usually two sides and one is waffled That may work better for your standing

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          #5
          Thanks

          Best regards and best wishes of the season to all,


          Lance

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            #6
            There are several companies that offer kneeling pads for canoes. These are rectangular or T shaped mats, with a nonslip backing and a bit of padding and a water proof cover. Will work fine for dogs.

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              #7
              Originally posted by alsg View Post
              There are several companies that offer kneeling pads for canoes. These are rectangular or T shaped mats, with a nonslip backing and a bit of padding and a water proof cover. Will work fine for dogs.
              I have probably gone through some three dozen pads. I used to teach canoeing. and all of them slide on RX. Fortunately most students had composite boats where the slide factor was much less. We found that the cheap workshop jam it under the gunwales solution worked well. If the pad was too floppy like the old Bell pads they would slide around and even the big ones jammed under the gunwales would not hold.

              If you have any sort of mat a way to make it less slidy on RX is to try carpet gripper. Another for small areas ie the dog area is just to install a shower mat with suction feet.
              Happy Holidays! Off to circumnavigate Boston today..

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                #8
                Thanks again folks. Given how slick the Royalex is I like the shower mat idea.

                I'm puttering around looking at minicel and seeing references to EVA Type T and Type L and densities from 2 to 6 pounds per cubic foot. Is this a case where outfitting can be done with one type and density or is there need for different types or densities for different uses? Right now I'm mostly concerned with the dog in the middle of the canoe but I may be looking to better outfit my kayaks, too.

                I need to figure out why Firefox sends some alerts from the website to my mailbox and some wind up in the spam folder. I just found two of the responses to this thread in the spam folder and yet some have gotten to the mailbox....


                Lance

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by yellowcanoe View Post

                  I have probably gone through some three dozen pads. I used to teach canoeing. and all of them slide on RX. Fortunately most students had composite boats where the slide factor was much less. We found that the cheap workshop jam it under the gunwales solution worked well. If the pad was too floppy like the old Bell pads they would slide around and even the big ones jammed under the gunwales would not hold.

                  If you have any sort of mat a way to make it less slidy on RX is to try carpet gripper. Another for small areas ie the dog area is just to install a shower mat with suction feet.
                  Happy Holidays! Off to circumnavigate Boston today..
                  That's a fair point about Royalex. I have only take my dog and used my pad in a strip-built fiberglass/epoxy canoe (where it tends to stay put).

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                    #10
                    Just wondering how well do these pads stay in place without adhesives when hulls are flipped over and portaged?

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                      #11
                      The puzzle piece exercise or shop flooring is usually 3/8” thick grey minicel, although I saw some at WallyWorld that was a sandwich of blue and grey and anti-slip textured on both sides, where the (? Less expensive) all-gray stuff is textured only on one side.

                      If intended for contact cementing down the single textured stuff would adhere better with a flat, flush surface glued down. The textured side, often a diamond plate or crosshatched grid pattern is more wear resistant than the smooth side, a good thing for paws and claws (or boots)

                      For kneeling purposes, at least with my knees, 3/8” thick isn’t enough for comfort.

                      Six 2’ x 2’ pieces of 3/8” thick minicel for $10 is a steal.

                      https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gold-s-Gy...-Mat/894829930

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                        #12
                        One thing missing is that you didn't say how big your dog is.
                        In my experience you don't need to overthink this. We just take the floor mats from the back of my wifes Kia Soul for our dog "Chestnut" in our Chestnut.
                        With a rubber backing they
                        give some cushioning and don't slip. Click image for larger version

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                        Merry Christmas to all!

                        Bruce

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                          #13
                          For portaging I just glued in some knee pads of 1/2 in minicell for kneeling comfort
                          But if poling they are a tripping hazard

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                            #14
                            I don't know, Pook. Clearly that dog is a menace to society and is far too fierce to have out on public!

                            Our dog, Rosie, is a tall and lean 50 pound red-tick American-English coonhound. She has very stout claws that grow very quickly. And they need trimmed every 2 weeks, 3 weeks tops, and they snag on looped carpet pile.

                            With the exception of our bathrooms our entire house has oak floors and the concrete garage and basement floors are power troweled to a really smooth surface. Her legs are long enough that she can only sit for a few seconds before her front legs start to slide out from under her since she sits so upright. She usually only sits on the throw rugs, area rugs and the padded mats in front of the kitchen sink and work benches. She'll often sit up on her haunches with her front paws off the ground rather than on the floor and slide.....

                            Epoxy painting the garage floor with a bit of traction additive helped there but I can't sand paint the canoe floor....

                            I think I'll order a couple packs of the gym mats Mike linked to. If needed, I have some super sticky hoop and loop tape I got from McMaster-Carr that has really aggressive adhesive on the back of the tape. A few dots of that stuff on the hull and mat should keep the mat from slipping too much and still allow me to remove them if desired.


                            Mike, do you have a preference as to what type of minicell to use for padding? I see M, L, and T.......

                            Best regards to all,


                            Lance
                            Last edited by LanceR; 12-24-2019, 01:59 PM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by LanceR View Post
                              Mike, do you have a preference as to what type of minicell to use for padding? I see M, L, and T.......
                              No idea, I just buy the least expensive six sheet packs of grey exercise/shop flooring I can find. I guess it is EVA foam, which seems much the same as that thickness minicel, just a little more stiff. The embossed side would help with claw scuff resistance.

                              I have read that EVA is more UV resistant than minicel, but I have minicel that has been contact cemented to canoes for 10 years.

                              I like the Velcro idea for holding it in place.


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